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Unicron said:
or you could be decent people, grow up, and stop stealing music and start doing like I am and using places where you can download individual songs for $1 a pop....honestly there is no excuse anymore, you are just thieves if you are still downloading mainstream music with filesharing and are giving a bad name to file sharing if it truely isnt meant for piracy.
Just me being picky... illegally downloading music is Copyright Violation, not Theft, and that's a huge difference.

And you're right, there's a ton of people around who think that they have the "right" to free music. They must understand that, regardless of your opinion on RIAA, Copyright, Music Prices and so on, by current laws downloadin music without a license is illegal, and RIAA has every right to pursuit legal action against downloaders.

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great newz for you alright :p

i think they want to do somethen like RIAA here in colombia too :O
 
Ali said:
Well there is no need to get too jumpy with this defeat, RIAA has successfully taken the court orders to convince the ISP's, for providing the details of all those users who are file involved in file swapping activities.

Read here

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm.../news?tmpl=story&cid=1804&e=2&u=/washpost/20041013/tc_washpost/a29254_2004oct13

This crap.
Where in the f****in hell did privacy go...
If i would get caught id kill myself before they could arrest me, really.. i would.

Each year, the industry loses about $4.2 billion to piracy worldwide -- "we estimate we lose millions of dollars a day to all forms of piracy.
Yea.... and they earn 50million :cuss2: :cuss2:

How much do compines get for 1 song anyway? 0.000000000000000000001 cent? O NO... they are losing part of a cent every time i download my songs!
 
That's why they aim more towards sharing of a song than downloading of a song. Because if you share a song, and 1000 people download it, it's becomes something more significatnt. And if that 1000 do it, too...

Look at it this way. You get up early in the morning, before the sun has risen, work hard all day long, spend great efforts to deliver quality work. And then, at the end of the day your boss fires you and the whole team because people is getting the results of your hard work for free, and the company's shareholders aren't getting enough profit to keep up with the company. How would you feel?

Granted, RIAA companies charge way too much for a whole cd where only one song is worth listening more than once, but, as unicron says, there are ways to download a single song and still pay it. If i were into making songs, i'd like my efforts to make for a living :p .
 
Music

I think the artist should sell music themselves through there homepage etc etc, so that they get all the money instead of some greedy music company, who only cares about selling music, and nothing about artists, or morals, or whatever.
 
the thing you dont understand is that most of the artists whose music you are not paying for in the first place wouldnt be known if not for the greedy "pig-shaped" oinking music exec's...not that that would be a bad thing considering the sorry tunes the industry (as a whole) is putting out nowadays.
 
ChankastRules said:
I think the artist should sell music themselves through there homepage etc etc, so that they get all the money instead of some greedy music company, who only cares about selling music, and nothing about artists, or morals, or whatever.
Only if that works :(
 
I think File sharing most of all hurts bands that make crappy albums. We've all been there you buy an album cuz you heard the single and it sounds good but then u hear the rest of the songs and they are total crap. I think filesharing is great because it lets me chose whther I wanna buy the album or not. As far me paying a buck a song, well why pay a buck if i can get it for free? Let's be realistic here, many of the bands I and i am sure many of you listen to, you heard them on napster, i think hardly anyone here buys a whole CD from just looking at an album cover.
I think RIAA are just a bunch of money hungry pigs that obviously will do anything to get more and more money from artists whether they are good or bad, i really hope the music industry dies and we go back to listening to what we like not what TV or Radio says we should like.
 
ceramiclion said:
well why pay a buck if i can get it for free?
Why would they let you if they can sue you? Do whatever you feel better with, but be aware that you are aout of the laws, and if you have to face consequences, face them. Do not try to hide behind all that 'boohooooo, the RIAA wanna sue me, they're such pigs :cry: ', because you'll have earned it. Artists make their songs to sell them, just as you'll expect to be payed for your job whatever it is. If you don't like it, don't buy it; if you think it's good enough to have it and keep it, pay for it. Nowadays you don't have to pay the whole cd, so please quit that senseless excuses, or at least face it and say 'yes, i'm doing something that is bad, but i don't care, i'll keep on doing it'. And don't dare to complain when it pays back ;) .
 
Well see what I think they should do is allow 100% file sharing with a twist. Make it like radio, (cause radio is free). Before you can download a song you have to listen to an ad or an ad can be embedded into the song. That way companies make money, we get songs, and everyone is happy, happy!
 
Noo

no advertising I'd rather buy it!!! ( I know I'm taking it to extremes here and it's not exactly what you mean but...)

I'm on the Hiiiggh----buy a burger from McDonlads---way to ----- coca cola ---- Hell........

you get the picture.
 
Another note:
Ok, even if the riaa stops P2P completely, what about the abilty to COPY cds and share 'em with people?

Coolsvilleman said:
Well see what I think they should do is allow 100% file sharing with a twist. Make it like radio, (cause radio is free). Before you can download a song you have to listen to an ad or an ad can be embedded into the song. That way companies make money, we get songs, and everyone is happy, happy!
What about isos? Embed a ad in them?
"Before you burn, we got a offer for you!"
 
Well for the people who download the songs and don't ever share them more power to them:),hell i have freinds(not including myself as i don't illegaly download songs) who download a ton of songs or full albums and have absolutely no intentions of buying the albums or singles(which i myself would never do).i say if you want to download some songs of that person or group that's fine but don't just download because it's free.But remember i am not on the side of the riaa because they so greedy and are pricks but do support those who actually make good songs,thak you all and have a nice day.
truly yours, dukenukem
 
IMO, the whole entertainment industry is just a bunch of greedy companies that are trying to take away the rights of artists so that they can make money on other people's work. In the past, such companies were needed in order to distribute music, movies, and other forms of entertainment. Today, however, they are really no longer needed. As ChankastRules pointed out, artists could very easily sell music on their own websites without having to go through music label company. This would greatly decrease the cost of music because there would be no middle man.

IMO, I wholly support artists and their efforts to make money from their own work. That being said, I find it highly hypocrytical of the recording industry, RIAA, and other companies trying to tell me what is right/wrong when they are the ones who are making money off other people's hard work.
 
I don't get it... why is RIAA being critized for trying to stop people from stealing oO Aren't the thieves the ones to criticize??

ceramiclion said:
As far me paying a buck a song, well why pay a buck if i can get it for free?

I think RIAA are just a bunch of money hungry pigs
How ironic :lol::lol::lol:

What did RIAA do to the artists? (never listen to or pay attention to songs so I don't know :()
 
Wind Hydra:

What do the record companies do to their artists??? Perhaps you should check this link out.

http://www.negativland.com/albini.html

This is the main reason why I object to the RIAA suing people. They stick the artists under contract to them, and they reap all the benefits, and keep all the money. All these superstars who have made millions of dollars have probably made the riaa BILLIONS of dollars.

So why shouldn't you download??? The artist is getting about as much of your money either way.

Also, what do you think the RIAA is doing with the money it gets from the lawsuits it's bringing against people? I don't have the link anymore, but they clearly stated about a year ago that the money raised through it's lawsuits will go back into their fund to help them bring even more lawsuits against people. So the artists aren't even seeing a penny of the money from all these lawsuits either. I say download the music. Or find a way (if possible) to buy from the artist themselves.
 
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