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Discussion starter · #42 ·
^heh i suppose your right

just to clarify im meaning the imature kids who will more than likley try to imitate games, not the ones who can be trusted.
 
Instead of parents turning into puritan control freaks (the 'button of doom' illustrates how absurd it would be), getting good games and participating with your descendance in leisure moments can be more interesting (as well as enjoyable).
Indeed, that is the idealistic, 'what if we were in a perfect world' type of solution. From my point of view the one presented here has the potential to be more practical.
 
I still think its stupid especially from the devs point of view and even the gamers point of view.While i admit that there is a certain age that must be respected for some games (like GTA 4 for example), being constantly watched by a parent while gaming can be rather annoying, especially if that game is a shooter, the player is 12-14 years old and after getting excited and starting to enjoy the game mommy suddenly pushes the button cause oh no its to violent for her little "angel".I mean how many of the "older gamers" really respected the age rating and played the appropriated games. I for one played Grand theft auto in '97 (which would mean i played it when i had 11 years) and i didnt or aint gonna go and shoot anyone or/and steal there car(and neither did i wish for it back then or now although in the game it was rather fun & still is).I played DOOM around the age of 8 and that didnt leave a mark on me either.
Another point would be that if this were to be promoted & the devs would have to add a red button to the consoles, seeing how stupid this idea already is, it would probably mean a BIG red button that ruins the console design and makes it look like a damn fire alarm (sry but its still seems stupid for me even with the points made above).
 
Discussion starter · #45 ·
I still think its stupid especially from the devs point of view and even the gamers point of view.While i admit that there is a certain age that must be respected for some games (like GTA 4 for example), being constantly watched by a parent while gaming can be rather annoying, especially if that game is a shooter, the player is 12-14 years old and after getting excited and starting to enjoy the game mommy suddenly pushes the button cause oh no its to violent for her little "angel".I mean how many of the "older gamers" really respected the age rating and played the appropriated games. I for one played Grand theft auto in '97 (which would mean i played it when i had 11 years) and i didnt or aint gonna go and shoot anyone or/and steal there car(and neither did i wish for it back then or now although in the game it was rather fun & still is).I played DOOM around the age of 8 and that didnt leave a mark on me either.
Another point would be that if this were to be promoted & the devs would have to add a red button to the consoles, seeing how stupid this idea already is, it would probably mean a BIG red button that ruins the console design and makes it look like a damn fire alarm (sry but its still seems stupid for me even with the points made above).
i agree it is stupid as hell, its even more stupid that some parents would need a red buttion,they should at least know the maturity of their children, and tailor the games they buy accordingly, and might i also say the age ratings should be used as a guidline for the retarded few children who would imitate them not, for the young children who have enougth of a mind to know not to go around killing people.
 
Discussion starter · #47 ·
Well in your case zidine i still wouldnt let you play anything else then Pinball/Solitaire/Chess or since i'm a good and understanding guy Pokemon.
damnit, wait, i kick ass at pinball.... Exelent.......

but please keep the pokemon.
 
Discussion starter · #49 ·
What's wrong with Pokemon? :p

But this button is only going to be coming out in the UK right?
its just a proposal which will hopefully never get put through, but you know most countries follow the leader on matters like this, so i would expect that it would come to your country soon after it gets through (that is if it gets though which it will probably not)

im not discussing why i hate pokemon:D or digimon :D, or another cartoon that someone decides to make up and puts an mon at the end of the name :D
 
Lol I freakin love those two mons. So be careful with whatcha say, mate. ;)

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if America came up with their own version of this kind of thing pretty soon. Once they pick up wind of the idea, they'll either build on it or steal it. :p
 
Discussion starter · #51 ·
dont worry im not going to say anything bad about them programs..........mabie :D

and yes america would defenetly do this aswell, seems like something there government would gladly accept.
 
I still think it's a cop out for parents that are too lazy to know what their kids play...There needs to be more communication. The government is just making it easier for the parents by just a press of a button...

...pun intended :p

Be nice zidine...or I'll kiss ya...;) teehee! *runs off into the fields of roses and bunnies and rainbows*
 
I still think its stupid especially from the devs point of view and even the gamers point of view
You are missing what is as stake here. It isn't 'how to protect the sacro rights of gamers' or the seven guidelines to make game coders life easier, or how video games affect gamers. What is being discussed is how to involve parents more into the monitoring of what their kids do with their video gaming time, which I think we all agree that, if done correctly, is beneficial for both parties (gamers and parents).

What is being discussed is an effective, and practical method for achieving this. If you want to call this stupid, sure go ahead, but it gives more value to your opinion if you propose a non utopian alternative.
 
I'd rather just see parents sit down with their kids and start talking and explaining why they don't want them to watch or play certain media.

Next thing we know, it'll take a parents finger print to just turn on the TV :lol:
 
Discussion starter · #55 · (Edited)
You are missing what is as stake here. It isn't 'how to protect the sacro rights of gamers' or the seven guidelines to make game coders life easier, or how video games affect gamers. What is being discussed is how to involve parents more into the monitoring of what their kids do with their video gaming time, which I think we all agree that, if done correctly, is beneficial for both parties (gamers and parents).

What is being discussed is an effective, and practical method for achieving this. If you want to call this stupid, sure go ahead, but it gives more value to your opinion if you propose a non utopian alternative.
i can see many usefull points about the buttion (and many bad points aswell), but what more than fecks me off is that parents would acctually need it, instead of acctually doing some research before buying these games for there children, how long does it take for you to do a simple google search about it, and even if your kid is screming at you demanding the game (spoiled brat :D), how much time would it take to check it out on your mobile phone, and if they dont think the game is suitable, its simple DONT BUY IT, in other words common sence should be the wepon of choice for parents, not a shiny magical red buttion. /*sorry for the rant*/
 
I'd rather just see parents sit down with their kids and start talking and explaining why they don't want them to watch or play certain media.

Next thing we know, it'll take a parents finger print to just turn on the TV :lol:
Yeah, that's what I've been saying. There needs to be communication. That's what happened with me and my brothers and we've had no parental freak outs with our video games. That's why I keep saying that the parents are just being lazy and taking a cop out instead of spending like 10 minutes with their kids to maturely discuss the rules.
 
Well yeah but that was just the opening statement i would also like to quote myself as a reply:

While i admit that there is a certain age that must be respected for some games (like GTA 4 for example), being constantly watched by a parent while gaming can be rather annoying, especially if that game is a shooter, the player is 12-14 years old and after getting excited and starting to enjoy the game mommy suddenly pushes the button cause oh no its to violent for her little "angel".
Edit: Just in case il quote this to:

I mean how many of the "older gamers" really respected the age rating and played the appropriated games. I for one played Grand theft auto in '97 (which would mean i played it when i had 11 years) and i didnt or aint gonna go and shoot anyone or/and steal there car(and neither did i wish for it back then or now although in the game it was rather fun & still is).I played DOOM around the age of 8 and that didnt leave a mark on me either.
PS: i do how ever see what you are trying to say & i respect your opinion on the matter, but my opinion stay's unchanged and i believe sniko is right here:

I'd rather just see parents sit down with their kids and start talking and explaining why they don't want them to watch or play certain media.

Next thing we know, it'll take a parents finger print to just turn on the TV :lol:
 
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