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Overclocking on Stock CPU cooler.

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#1 ·
How much do you think I can overclock my AMD 4400+ on stock cooling so that it remains stable and does not burn.

ps: I don't know anything about overclocking, but my computer has overclocking options so I think with some help I can overclock just a little.
 
#2 ·
Looks like an average of 2.4-2.8Ghz overclock.

I haven't overclocked an AMD chip in a long time... If I remember right, AMDs HT(or HTT?) is like Intels FSB. Just keep incrementing it until it isn't stable anymore. Then up the voltage a bit.

Rinse and repeat.
 
#4 ·
Go into your boards' BIOS. You usually use "Delete" or sometimes "F2" on immediate startup (tap it repeatedly) to enter the BIOS. The settings should be in there, if your board has overclocking options.

What motherboard do you have?

What are your temperatures at idle and under load (Orthos or Prime95 is a good way to check the latter so we have an idea of a normal load).
 
#6 ·
If what I've briefly searched is any indicator, that board can overclock, but just barely. It has no CPU voltage control, which stops you in your tracks basically. You can just adjust the FSB and FSB voltage, among a few other simple things. You won't get far. My brother's PC with an AsRock board that can overclock but has no CPU voltage control can't get much past stock. The CPU is rated for 2.8GHz but isn't totally stable at even 3.0GHz under load. I never tried 2.9GHz, but it wouldn't be worth it. I doubt those kinds of boards lock the AGP, PCI Express, PCI, or IDE frequencies either, which can be dangerous past a certain level. I honestly wouldn't bother with it on that board. The small increase (and I emphasize the word "small") wouldn't be worth it.
 
#10 ·
Idle? 47? Degrees celsius? Limited overclocking options there.

4400 X2 is 2.4 Ghz isn't it? Hmm. I'm expecting 2.8Ghz at max with no voltage changes.
(233x12)

If you manage 2.8Ghz expect temps to go as high as +60c when using Orthos to test stability, not a safe temperature.
 
#13 · (Edited)
Also download/install Prime95, its benchmarking tool with which you can test the stability of your overclocked system (or alternatively, just run PCSX2 for a while but this has a variety of tests which strain specific components so its better to use it).

If you want to find out where the overclocking options are in the BIOS, pick up the manual that came with your mobo, that's the best advice since options obviously differ from model to model.

I'm on stock and have a good ~500MHz OC, shouldn't be hard for you, no major temp increase. If you're using that dusty old case though, I wouldn't recommend it, not good airflow.
Psssttt...its an AMD, not a C2D :p
 
#14 ·
If you want to find out where the overclocking options are in the BIOS, pick up the manual that came with your mobo, that's the best advice since options obviously differ from model to model.
Where do you think I got the Idea about overclocking from and my system specs.

its all written in the manual and the pc specification sheet.:D
 
#16 ·
I only searched for my graphics card(here), rest of the system was configured according to my budget and I didn't know much about Intel and AMD back then. All I knew was that AMD is cheap and works as fast as Intel for lesser price.
If I would have known about AMD's cons I would have convinced my dad to buy me an Intel computer.
 
#17 ·
overclocking has become so complex... im gunna have to learn it all over again.
 
#19 ·
overclocking a C2D is gunna be more like overclocking a AthlonXP, then trying to overclock a Athlon64.
 
#20 ·
I might have to re-learn to overclock with Core i7...
 
#21 ·
I read the manual, it says that it has the NOOB mode for overclocking aka overclocking profile, which overclocks the cpu automatically.
It gives me an option to overclock to 3% 5% and 7% of original speed.
I haven't tried it yet. I guess I have a good motherboard. Its can have 8GB ram too.
 
#22 ·
I wouldn't call your motherboard bad, but if it can't adjust the CPU voltage, it's practically useless for any real overclocking. A 7% increase would bring you from 2.20GHz to to 2.35GHz. You'd perhaps see a 5%-7% increase in PCSX2, but that's about it. Now if you could get it to 2.5GHz or more, it might be worth the trouble.
 
#23 ·
I read the manual, it says that it has the NOOB mode for overclocking aka overclocking profile, which overclocks the cpu automatically.
It gives me an option to overclock to 3% 5% and 7% of original speed.
I haven't tried it yet. I guess I have a good motherboard. Its can have 8GB ram too.
DON'T EVEN TOUCH THE FREAKIN' OVERCLOCKING PROFILES!! DO WHATEVER YOU WANT MANUALLY!!

I tried using these, but they just crap out your system. Manual OC'ing is pretty easy anyway, just start upping the FSB (or whatever the AMD counter-part is), and also up the CPU voltage as you go along. RAM timings and FSB : DRAM will also have to be considered though (and PCI Express frequency in some cases)
 
#24 ·
It can change the voltage of ram and CPU too.
And right now the freq is 200 and multiplier is 11.5
eg,. I can change the multiplier options from x5 to x11.5 and freq from 200 to 300 in steps of 0.5 and 1 respectively.
I can change pci-exp freq from 100 to 150 in steps of 1 each
chipset voltage options are auto, 1.2v, 1.3v
memory voltage options are auto, 1.850, 1.9, 1.950, 2.0v

These are the options available in the jumper free config. and the CPU config. options of the BIOS.
Right now everything is at AUTO.
with 7% over clock profile I got a speed of 2.473MHz and Normal speed is 2300Mhz.
 
#25 ·
I don't think you'll need to alter the memory voltage, its really finicky and starts getting unstable even if its slightly off the sweet-spot. As for the PCI Express frequency, I was told here previously to keep it at 100. But that's only required after you start experiencing instabilities (some mobos up the PCIe frequency automatically as you up the CPU freq, so it helps to fix it at 100).
 
#26 ·
It is advisable to always lock the PCI-E speed.