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ceramiclion said:
All that looks exactly like a Mac although I can already see myself turning off all those animations and junk and going to classic mode. Hopefully (I know it probably won't happen tho) it will be more memory efficient, stable and harder to get infect by spyware or viruses. But no I am not impressed....
I dunno where people get the idea that having icons as big as your screen and lots of glossy windows makes an OS better.
But you have to remember, there are a LOT of clueless computer users out there and they get impressed by these animations quite easily. They want to be able to have something that looks good. They don't realize that these features are what hinders their computer's performance. The smart business decision would be to cater to the majority of computer users out there and have all these extra bells and whistles put in since that'll probably generate more revenue for them. It's too bad that even after turning off the majority of these features, the "bloat" still remains on the system, wasting disk space.
 
Actually, I don't think those things will hinder Vista's performance as much as you guys think. With a decent graphics card, it should be able to run smoothly from what I've seen. And in software mode it wouldn't use all those fancy visual effects anyway. Not that it matters much to me, as I plan on making the switch to Linux the next time an OS change becomes prudent.
 
__Xzyx987X said:
Actually, I don't think those things will hinder Vista's performance as much as you guys think. With a decent graphics card, it should be able to run smoothly from what I've seen. And in software mode it wouldn't use all those fancy visual effects anyway. Not that it matters much to me, as I plan on making the switch to Linux the next time an OS change becomes prudent.
I'd imagine any modern computer will be able to run it just fine. I'm sure any computer that comes preinstalled with it will be good.
 
Discussion starter · #24 ·
As far as the pretty things boggin down your system thing goes, my ibook G4 with a 1.33 Ghz G4, 512mb of ram and a radeon 9200 with 32mb of vram runs osx pretty slick. And my processor is pretty slow compared to a G5 and really slow compared to the intel macs.

oh and btw just incase some of you aren't aware, I can't tell who is being sarcastic and who isn't, that was somebody showing off a mac, with the guy talking about vista.
 
I heard rumors that Vista support 128 CPU(next gen CPU)
This going boost both Dolphin and PCSX2 speed:D
 
__Xzyx987X said:
Actually, I don't think those things will hinder Vista's performance as much as you guys think. With a decent graphics card, it should be able to run smoothly from what I've seen. And in software mode it wouldn't use all those fancy visual effects anyway. Not that it matters much to me, as I plan on making the switch to Linux the next time an OS change becomes prudent.

Linux, HA, no more PC games 4 u (save a select few)
 
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Vista should run pretty smooth, as I said before OS X runs really slow on pretty basic hardware, and from the looks of it Vista isn't going to have anything any more impressive, that is if they code it half way decent, guess we will have to wait and see.
 
Valcrist said:
Vista should run pretty smooth, as I said before OS X runs really slow on pretty basic hardware, and from the looks of it Vista isn't going to have anything any more impressive, that is if they code it half way decent, guess we will have to wait and see.
Remember this IS Microsoft we are talking about ;)
 
__Xzyx987X said:
Actually, I don't think those things will hinder Vista's performance as much as you guys think. With a decent graphics card, it should be able to run smoothly from what I've seen. And in software mode it wouldn't use all those fancy visual effects anyway. Not that it matters much to me, as I plan on making the switch to Linux the next time an OS change becomes prudent.
With a decent graphics card?

I want my OS to run without it even touching my GPU.
 
The WinVi interface is intentionally going to cripple the power of OpenGL which will slow all other OpenGL programs by 50% to phase it out. They're doing this so most games will have to switch to Direct3D (M$'s one). Ofcourse you can switch back to an XP styled interface to free up the OpenGL.

Didn't you get the memo?
 
Vanit said:
The WinVi interface is intentionally going to cripple the power of OpenGL which will slow all other OpenGL programs by 50% to phase it out. They're doing this so most games will have to switch to Direct3D (M$'s one). Ofcourse you can switch back to an XP styled interface to free up the OpenGL.

Didn't you get the memo?
Either you're intentionally omitting facts to make this look like a bigger deal than it is or your source did. The reason for the performance hit in OpenGL is because Aeroglass is already using Direct3D to render the desktop environment. In order to even allow OpenGL to run in that same space, it has to be layered over the top of Direct3D and have all its calls wrapped. It's similar to the Glide wrappers some use in order to utilize Glide gpu plugins. This ONLY AFFECTS WINDOWED OPENGL APPLICATIONS. Full screen applications are not affected. Also, if you turn off all the pretty desktop effects, you won't have the problem, anyway.

This is a technical limitation. Nobody's "intentionally crippling" anything...and last I checked, they were getting over 80% of typical performance. As Vista's release draws nearer, expect that hit to become negligible.

Edit: Come to think of it, Apple does the exact same thing with the Mac OSX desktop environment.

LordRayden said:
Your kidding right, remember when Millenium and XP came out, bugs, bugs, bugs, hundreds of patches were needed to finally fix the unstability and lock up probs that people were having...
ME was bad all around due to design. I don't think that had anything to do with it being a brand new OS and XP has had the best track record for stability of any MS OS, except for Server 2003. I don't recall any "unstability or lock up" issues and I've been using it since RC1.
 
Well I did say you could revert back to the XP interface to retrieve full performance. Also my source probably jumped to conclusions a bit, I appologize for being misleading :).
 
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