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Discussion starter · #21 ·
I read the manual, it says that it has the NOOB mode for overclocking aka overclocking profile, which overclocks the cpu automatically.
It gives me an option to overclock to 3% 5% and 7% of original speed.
I haven't tried it yet. I guess I have a good motherboard. Its can have 8GB ram too.
 
#22 ·
I wouldn't call your motherboard bad, but if it can't adjust the CPU voltage, it's practically useless for any real overclocking. A 7% increase would bring you from 2.20GHz to to 2.35GHz. You'd perhaps see a 5%-7% increase in PCSX2, but that's about it. Now if you could get it to 2.5GHz or more, it might be worth the trouble.
 
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redlofredlof said:
I read the manual, it says that it has the NOOB mode for overclocking aka overclocking profile, which overclocks the cpu automatically.
It gives me an option to overclock to 3% 5% and 7% of original speed.
I haven't tried it yet. I guess I have a good motherboard. Its can have 8GB ram too.
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DON'T EVEN TOUCH THE FREAKIN' OVERCLOCKING PROFILES!! DO WHATEVER YOU WANT MANUALLY!!

I tried using these, but they just crap out your system. Manual OC'ing is pretty easy anyway, just start upping the FSB (or whatever the AMD counter-part is), and also up the CPU voltage as you go along. RAM timings and FSB : DRAM will also have to be considered though (and PCI Express frequency in some cases)
 
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Discussion starter · #24 ·
It can change the voltage of ram and CPU too.
And right now the freq is 200 and multiplier is 11.5
eg,. I can change the multiplier options from x5 to x11.5 and freq from 200 to 300 in steps of 0.5 and 1 respectively.
I can change pci-exp freq from 100 to 150 in steps of 1 each
chipset voltage options are auto, 1.2v, 1.3v
memory voltage options are auto, 1.850, 1.9, 1.950, 2.0v

These are the options available in the jumper free config. and the CPU config. options of the BIOS.
Right now everything is at AUTO.
with 7% over clock profile I got a speed of 2.473MHz and Normal speed is 2300Mhz.
 
#25 ·
I don't think you'll need to alter the memory voltage, its really finicky and starts getting unstable even if its slightly off the sweet-spot. As for the PCI Express frequency, I was told here previously to keep it at 100. But that's only required after you start experiencing instabilities (some mobos up the PCIe frequency automatically as you up the CPU freq, so it helps to fix it at 100).
 
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#26 ·
It is advisable to always lock the PCI-E speed.
 
#27 ·
Seconded you really shouldnt touch the PCIe frequency leave it at 100, and you dont have to change the frequency from 200 to 300 (i asume you meant FSB here right?) in steps of 0.5 and 1,you can do it from 10 to 10 and it should be alright (but not more then 10 cause in some cases it fails and you need a bios restart), also (if this is about FSB) by bringing it from 200 to 300 you do know that means 1 Ghz at least right? (depends on the mobo mine is a little screwed up and defy's normal logic after i increased from 210)
Also in some cases (like mine) you'll have to lower the HT (hipertransport) so you can get more speed (modifying the FSB also raises the HT which can be unstable with higher values).
As for me from my P3 i always overclocked all my CPU's with at least +500 on stock cooling (the best one being the Sempron LE1100 which i raised with a extra 700 MHZ, and the temps weren't over 43-45 C in heavy loads).
Unfortunately i cant overclock my current CPU more than +500 Mhz since the max voltage value i can select for the cpu is 1.4V, damn mobo)
 
#28 ·
heh, knowing me i'd just go up 50 a time and see if it crashes
 
Discussion starter · #29 ·
the 200-300 thing has selectable values as
200
201
202
203
.
.
.
299
300

and the x11.5 is as
x5
x5.5
x6
.
.
x11
x11.5

And I will not fiddle with pcs-i freq. or Ram vg.
I have to overclock the cpu only

What is the Tmax for AMD x2 4400+?
 
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redlofredlof said:
It can change the voltage of ram and CPU too.
And right now the freq is 200 and multiplier is 11.5
eg,. I can change the multiplier options from x5 to x11.5 and freq from 200 to 300 in steps of 0.5 and 1 respectively.
I can change pci-exp freq from 100 to 150 in steps of 1 each
chipset voltage options are auto, 1.2v, 1.3v
memory voltage options are auto, 1.850, 1.9, 1.950, 2.0v

These are the options available in the jumper free config. and the CPU config. options of the BIOS.
Right now everything is at AUTO.
with 7% over clock profile I got a speed of 2.473MHz and Normal speed is 2300Mhz.
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Looks like I was off by 100MHz on the stock speed (It's been a while for AMD for me).

I see no CPU voltage control anywhere in there, and a Google search of that board and it's BIOS screens has repeatedly shown it to have none. Based on the limited options you give for chipset and memory voltages, it would seem to me like it's not an overclocking board (or only an entry level one). Like I said, without being able to raise voltage, you won't get too far.

Leave the PCI Express, PCI, and/or AGP, any and all that are applicable, at default. The absolute maximum for the PCI Express is 110-115, but even there it can get finicky, and the results are next to nil.

Also, what RAM do you have? If it's just basic 200MHz (400MHz DDR) PC3200, you won't get much over the stock 200MHz it's at now anyway.

Squall-Leonhart said:
heh, knowing me i'd just go up 50 a time and see if it crashes
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That's what I did with my last two CPUs. I went straight to 3.6GHz with the E8400, and straight to 4.5GHz (since it needed roughly the same settings as the 4.05GHz setup the E8400 had) with the E8600, granted it needed some fiddling. It needed a bit more after adding the extra 4GB RAM too. I already knew the limits of most of the parts though. Otherwise, I wouldn't jump straight to my target.

redlofredlof said:
And I will not fiddle with pcs-i freq. or Ram vg.
I have to overclock the cpu only
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You might have to raise the RAM voltage. That's how a CPU overclocks. You raise the FSB at which the CPU and RAM run, and since you're probably using basic PC3200 stuff, to go above stock, it'll probably need more voltage.

I'd research what RAM you have, and what voltage and timings and frequency it has.

Leaving the PCI Express frequency alone is a good idea. It will not affect the overclocking at all. It's not related.
 
Discussion starter · #36 ·
I have a Hyundai 800MHz Ram stick, Squall probably knows more about it than me cause he helped me increase its voltage to 1.9V.

Sorry, I meant Max temperature when I said Tmax, Its a term I we used in lab.

There are only three pre defined voltages for the cpu.
And yeah, My board is cheap but has all the goddies that are required from a low end board.
And sorry for replying late, I couldn't access internet yesterday, it kept asking me for username and password and every time I entered it, it asked again.oO
 
#38 ·
redlofredlof said:
I have a Hyundai 800MHz Ram stick, Squall probably knows more about it than me cause he helped me increase its voltage to 1.9V.

Sorry, I meant Max temperature when I said Tmax, Its a term I we used in lab.

There are only three pre defined voltages for the cpu.
And yeah, My board is cheap but has all the goddies that are required from a low end board.
And sorry for replying late, I couldn't access internet yesterday, it kept asking me for username and password and every time I entered it, it asked again.oO
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Ah, I should have figured it was DDR2 RAM (my old AMD was DDR(1) so that's what I keep unconsciously thinking they all use for some reason). If the CPU's FSB is 200MHz (I'm aware it's not really a FSB, but for this purpose, it's the equivalent of one), then your RAM, which runs 400MHz (800MHz DDR) won't even get in the way, so long as it stays below 400MHz.

What are the options for the CPU voltage? Using CPU-Z and/or Everest (they both give me the same results), check what voltage your CPU is running at right now at stock for comparison to what you have available.
 
Discussion starter · #39 ·
Here are the values with
Asus PC Probe
Vcore=1.26v and fluctuates sometime to 1.28v
+3.3=3.46v
+5=5.07v
+12=12.04v
CPu temp=38c just turned the comp ON
cpu fan speed=2490RPM

Everest
cpu tempcore1=16c
core2=15c
MCP=56c
aux=39c
gpu=47c
hdd1=36
hdd2=32

cpu core=1.26v
+3.3=3.46v
+12=12.8v
vbat battery=3.22v
 
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