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PCSX2 - Netbook gaming... Possible or not???

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hello there everyone!

im currently showing off the ASUS EEE 901 on youtube with a video of nullDC (dreamcast emulator) in action
YouTube - EEE 901 - Dreamcast (Soul Calibur) (ATOM / 945GME)

NOW i want to do the same with PCSX2...

so i wonder... is there anyone here with experience if PCSX2 works at all with GMA950 graphics... and if it do... can u please suggest a game with very low system requirements...

i just want to see if the least demanding PS2 games can work sufficiantly well on the intel atom (working in super performance mode=1680mhz) + gma 950...

and if it does i will upload a video on youtube and post it here :)


p.s. there is a netbook called asus n10... it has geforce 9300m graphics,,, but only the same 1.6ghz atom cpu as the eee901, so i guess is a bit more suitable for ps2gaming
 
#2 ·
No atom processor will ever give high speeds in pcsx2.
By the time there's a netbook able to run pcsx2 satisfactorily I'll be turning 30
 
#3 ·
@LastNinja
Emulating a Dreamcast require a much less powerful hardware, than emulating ps2... I believe that with "GMA950 graphics", it's hopeless ...
Try to emulate the Dreamcast on your netbook instead :D
 
#4 ·
You could be able to play games on that netbook, but it will take u probably like 1-2 hours to get in-game with that hardware, even worst if you think about recording.

Just give up on it and don't even bother trying to emulate pcsx2 at all.
 
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as u can see on the video i uploaded to youtube, soul calibur (dreamcast) plays pretty good on the eee... i recorded the video with a fuji f31fd camera so it wont eat the cpu...

im not looking to get perfect speed for a PS2 game, i just want to show off like a "proof of concept"... thats why i want to know which PS2 games that r least demanding of cpu and graphics... im happy if it shows anything on the screen
 
#6 ·
Well there is Mobile Light Force 2, It's quite a dumb game in my opinion. My grandma got it for me for Christmas 2 years ago, its one of those like $20 games (at the time when normal price was like $40)
 
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#7 · (Edited)
as u can see on the video i uploaded to youtube, soul calibur (dreamcast) plays pretty good on the eee... i recorded the video with a fuji f31fd camera so it wont eat the cpu...

im not looking to get perfect speed for a PS2 game, i just want to show off like a "proof of concept"... thats why i want to know which PS2 games that r least demanding of cpu and graphics... im happy if it shows anything on the screen
You have the cheapest consumer laptop available, whose sole development purpose was aimed at third world countries where the majority of the population couldn't afford laptops.

The atom CPU inside the eee was also designed for lowest possible TDP, not performance, so that leaves you with even less of a chance. Last I heard, it also only has 512kb of L2 cache, which cripples it further. And the dual core atom isn't much better.

Point is, pcsx2 probably won't even start, so there's no point. Especially with the integrated graphics chips in the eee laptops being rather weak as well. You may be able to play PSX and whatnot fullspeed though, so you could do a proof of concept of that if you want, but getting "a picture on a screen" for pcsx2 is just pointless, as you could just look at screenshots or videos if you need confirmation that pcsx2 can run.
 
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The only way to get anything near playable on a netbook would be a service like StreamMyGame, which uses another (much more powerful) computer to do the heavy lifting while piping video and audio over a wired network connection.

This, in theory, should work. Problem is the service isn't exactly that great, and I've also never tried running PCSX2 with it, it may not even start up.

Check it out if you'd like. It goes without saying that you won't receive support for any issues that come up when using it, but if you're dead-set on getting a netbook it can't hurt to try.
 
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Any way I could get that $15 instead?....*cough* sexual favours *cough*

j/k xD....On a sidenote, **** paypal...dam thing charges a huge transaction fee when I'm just trying to charge $5 across...

Check it out if you'd like. It goes without saying that you won't receive support for any issues that come up when using it, but if you're dead-set on getting a netbook it can't hurt to try.
I can understand people with macbooks and middle range laptops who want to give pcsx2 a go, but seriously, an eee? Those things would have trouble playing intensive flash games. Not to be harsh to the OP of course, since eee laptops are actually great for what their designed for (mobile wifi and word processing etc etc), but when all the guides/faqs bluntly say a 2ghz C2D is the absolute minimum, why bother asking if a 1.6ghz atom could run? The thing has a TDP in the single digits ffs, that's a pretty clear indicator of it's designated market.
 
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Any way I could get that $15 instead?....*cough* sexual favours *cough*

j/k xD....On a sidenote, **** paypal...dam thing charges a huge transaction fee when I'm just trying to charge $5 across...



I can understand people with macbooks and middle range laptops who want to give pcsx2 a go, but seriously, an eee? Those things would have trouble playing intensive flash games. Not to be harsh to the OP of course, since eee laptops are actually great for what their designed for (mobile wifi and word processing etc etc), but when all the guides/faqs bluntly say a 2ghz C2D is the absolute minimum, why bother asking if a 1.6ghz atom could run? The thing has a TDP in the single digits ffs, that's a pretty clear indicator of it's designated market.
i know im a sexy guy, but no thanks :D

the atom is not built to oc........i cannot handle volts
 
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#12 ·
Nobody implied it could be o.0.....Why would anyone OC an atom anyways? It's fast enough to do it's job well :p. Pushing it further would just be pointless.

If the TDP is really as low as Intel says though, it probably puts out just a tad more heat than my ipod touch's ARM processor when it's speedstepped.
 
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How about Final Fantasy X on a netbook: YouTube - FFX emulated on the eeepc !
thanks for proving those who claims it wont even start wrong :)

this is the reason i want to try the least demanding games as well to see if acceptable speed can be reached... maybe some 2d game or something...

i will atleast try that mobile light force 2, to see if its not very demanding...


i dont really consider the eee that weak for gaming being able to emulate dreamcast games like soul calibur fullspeed (kinda - some demanding scenes may be 90% of full speed)... its nothing for newer games with even more advanced graphics though, but not all ps2 games necessarily have more advanced graphics than that.

also it can play HD material in 720p as well, and sometimes even 1080p if its lower bitrate than average.

the atom netbooks may be weak, but they are surprisingly strong considering what they where officially intended for :)
 
#18 ·
The eee you have is a single core. The person in the video has the new dual core diamondville atom CPU that was only recently released.

The atom you have in your eee, performs roughly the same as a 900mhz celeron M, since it has an extremely high latency. Compare that, to the minimum requirement of a 2ghz C2D stated in all the FAQs, and a core 2 has a much faster structure since it was designed for performance (any C2D's TDP is more than 10 times that of an atom CPU).
 
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#19 ·
Your netbook won't have acceptable results PERIOD. It is too weak, and as it was mentioned before, the integrated GPU is not just gonna cut it.

As I mentioned before, the emulator will run, but u will get 10 fps or less tops I would say.

Dreamcast, ps1, pj 64, etc............. are not demanding emulators, heck I could even run the ps1 emu on my 7 year old comp. PS2 emulation is just out of ur reach for now, maybe the upcoming netbooks might be able to run it a bit better, but for now just forget about it.
 
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@ryllian: Please post a link to a netbook with dual core! You will realize there is nothing like this. Every netbook on Intel base has Hyperthreading, that's it.

Oh, and: The threads by PCSX2 are only used up to 80%, so it would run even more fluent on netbooks if it would be optimized just a little bit.

Last thing: A lot of people in this thread are a good example for consumer slaves who only accept the fastest, newest and expensiest hardware. Way too narrow minded to imagine that people still like to play PS2 on the go with their little companion. I remember the begining stages of PS1 emulation: If anyone like the people in this thread would have been there, there would be no emulation today, since it was way too slow back then... ;-)
 
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when ps2 came out it was considered by many, as belonging to the same generation of consoles as the dreamcast, even if more powerful... i would agree with them, but of course i understand that the more power of PS2 requires a more powerful pc for succesful and pleasant emulation.
The eee you have is a single core. The person in the video has the new dual core diamondville atom CPU that was only recently released.

The atom you have in your eee, performs roughly the same as a 900mhz celeron M, since it has an extremely high latency.
in the dreamcast video i made:
YouTube - EEE 901 - Dreamcast (Soul Calibur) (ATOM / 945GME)
i use a regular single core eee901 in super performance mode (1680mhz) for the dreamcast emulation...

according to the info in the ffx video:
YouTube - FFX emulated on the eeepc !
the following is stated:
FFX running on eeepc 901
Intel Atom @1.6ghz (stock)

PCSX2 playground revision 134 (i think)
+ all speedhacks enabled
why do u think its dual core diamondville

I remember the begin stages of PS1 emulation: If anyone like the people in this thread would have been there, there would be no emulation today, since it was way too slow in the beginning...
yes, i was there as well... i used the forerunner to "psemu pro" (coded by some polish guy) for MS DOS... i got 3-5 fps in tekken 1 on the old pentium 120mhz...
it wasnt really playable in that speed but the fascination of seeing a working psx emulator was incredible...
that was the good old days, when ppl struggled to reach full speed emulation in all snes games and psx speed still was a dream... later there was a company that released a "commercial official psx emulator" (Connectix Virtual Game Station) that gave full speed on a p2-300mhz... :)



im still quite certain that if FFX works that well on a EEE901 there should be some less advanced PS2 game that plays at full speed (or atleast near full speed, perhaps 60-70%), and if its a turnbased game it may be ok to play in that speed
 
#22 ·
40fps on a single 1.6ghz atom core is just not possible.

Try configure it yourself and see what you get, but that is my opinion. He could be running a 330 or 230 in the video, and to be honest I have no clue which since I've never really been interested in the whole eee concept, but getting the fps he is, I doubt that is a single core as people have trouble getting fullspeed on 2ghz C2D desktop PCs.
 
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#23 ·
Maybe all the speed hacks helped in that, but I doubt that all the speed hacks would allow him to play at 40 fps.

@ LastNinja : how about u try it urself and see what results u get since asking people about this matter is pointless, no one uses that kind of comp for ps2 emulation.
 
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@Master_DX: If you look in PCSX2 under "Processor" you will see an explanation that says that even skipped frames are counted. So of course this is not the true speed, but still it's playable in a way...

@ryllian: Then let me tell you, there is no ASUS EeePC-netbook with dual core. Actually there is no netbook at all with more than one core. The earliest will be end of next year unfortunatley... So if you had doubts, you now may want to think about netbooks in a new way - way faster than you (and the others) thought, right? And again: PCSX2 does NOT use the full power of the Atom N230 CPU!
 
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@ LastNinja : how about u try it urself and see what results u get since asking people about this matter is pointless, no one uses that kind of comp for ps2 emulation.
yes, i will try PCSX2...

the reason i started this thread was in the hope to get to know of the least demanding PS2 games... because every game i have to test will mean alot of time...

it would be more simple if someone can make a short list of the least cpu/gpu intensive games
 
#26 ·
If u want the best result out of it, just play a 2D game like Marvel vs Capcom, it should give u full speed with all speed hacks enabled or at least close to it most of the time.
 
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