*hugs FF*

What's Opera?

 

Opera seems to be nicely faster at jscript-heavy pages compared to 10.10

But all in all, the UI would require major rethinking, it's gone at the point it's simply counterproductive, and bloated. Pick a UI, and stick to it, not change it 10 times a year.

 

Turbo feature is what i liked in Opera. It 's in opera since version 9 i guess.

 

Didn't make much of a difference IMO.

 

But all in all, the UI would require major rethinking, it's gone at the point it's simply counterproductive, and bloated. Pick a UI, and stick to it, not change it 10 times a year.

Isn't this a bit of a contradiction? You think the UI sucks, but you don't want them to change (improve) it?

 

Opera seems to be nicely faster at jscript-heavy pages compared to 10.10

But all in all, the UI would require major rethinking, it's gone at the point it's simply counterproductive, and bloated. Pick a UI, and stick to it, not change it 10 times a year.

Huh? I have a completely different opinion than you... In my experience trying browsers, only Opera have the real customizable UI.
Right click-> customize let you change almost all aspect of the UI, mine has search page permanently embedded on the leftmost bottom space for example.

Just realized that you mean its default skin. :doh:
Well, almost all major browser change it when they get to major release, so it's fair imo, and for Opera case it's not really a bad thing .

Didn't make much of a difference IMO.

Really? but I can feel the SPEED!
Most obvious is scrolling on heavy pages with slower computer, FF is unbearable, this not.

 

Isn't this a bit of a contradiction? You think the UI sucks, but you don't want them to change (improve) it?

How is that a contradiction?

He wants Opera to have basically the same UI for a long time.
Not have it change 10 times a year.
The 2 are unrelated.

 

If you browse Internet on mobile phone Opera is your best web browser to use.
But for PC FF for the win!

 

Yeah Opera Mini is awesome.

 

How is that a contradiction?

He wants Opera to have basically the same UI for a long time.
Not have it change 10 times a year.
The 2 are unrelated.

The contradiction is saying "it sucks", and yet he doesn't want them to change (improve) it.

 

Opera Mini is good, but....in terms of speed, Pocket IE eats it alive

 

Eh... at least it serves its purpose, and no other Java browser even come close to Opera Mini.

On topic, this Opera pre-alpha crashed every 5 minutes or so as has been warned :heh: I guess I must wait for at least alpha to really replace the 10.10 T^T

 

pre-alpha? The mere word makes me shudder.

 

I'm still on 10.10

It's funny, after FF has stolen just about everything that made Opera good, I'm still using Opera. I don't even need the 'fit-to-screen' button anymore ever since I got my widescreen LCD. Guess I have mouse gestures ingrained into my browsing habit and find myself right-click move-left one time too many, even when my mouse has a back-forward button to do that job. -_-

 

pre-alpha? The mere word makes me shudder.

As opposed, there are many excited Opera users, after all this is, like the name imply, a preview of the treat we'll get soon.

I'm still on 10.10

It's funny, after FF has stolen just about everything that made Opera good, I'm still using Opera. I don't even need the 'fit-to-screen' button anymore ever since I got my widescreen LCD. Guess I have mouse gestures ingrained into my browsing habit and find myself right-click move-left one time too many, even when my mouse has a back-forward button to do that job. -_-

Same here, I'm also using Firefox portable from time to time and found myself configuring it to be like Opera (Mouse gestures, Speed Dial, MHT support, and some more which simply missing) :/.
The Strata40 skin is nice though.

 

opera is one of the most underrated software, i think that more the competition is, better is for us end-users. Opera is the web browsers R&D.

 

Opera can gtfo. A lot of websites more compatible with FF and IE.

I don't want to see any crashes.

 

Opera can gtfo. A lot of websites more compatible with FF and IE.

I don't want to see any crashes.

opera is about web standards. if a site dont work on opera, that site can gtfo from my internet. koko you really should upgrade that internet explorer 5 of yours.

 

My main browser is Opera, i also have Firefox just in case but i don't use it.

What i like about Opera is that i can customize it the way i want, is faster than Firefox and it have better Skins than Firefox. I don't like Firefox Skins.

Firefox does have something that Opera don't have, and thats "addons", Opera have "widgets" instead. But Firefox addons are better than Opera widgets. But that's the only part when Firefox have more points than Opera imho, i like Opera in everything else.

Opera also have a cool feature: "Paste and Go", so if you are feeling a bit lazy you can just grab a link and paste it with a "Paste and Go" and it will go to that link automatically (without pressing enter to go to the link).

And yep, i "was" a Firefox user years ago, i switched to Opera.

 

Opera Mini is good, but....in terms of speed, Pocket IE eats it alive

Pocket IE is faster than Opera Mini? Sounds like there's something weird with your phone. Opera Mini is much faster.

Opera can gtfo. A lot of websites more compatible with FF and IE.

That's because sites are designed specifically for those browsers. So the comparison is rather unfair.

opera is about web standards.

Actually, Opera was built from the ground up to handle crappy code. It's just a myth that Opera refuses to handle non-standard code. Most compatibility problems are because the site is blocking Opera anyway. If you mask Opera as Firefox, the sites will "magically" start working because they think you are using Firefox, so they send stuff that actually works instead of just blocking you.

Firefox does have something that Opera don't have, and thats "addons", Opera have "widgets" instead.

Widgets aren't really supposed to be addons to the browser. They are supposed to be separate applications. Opera has stuff like custom toolbars and buttons, and User JS for extending the browser.

 

Actually, Opera was built from the ground up to handle crappy code. It's just a myth that Opera refuses to handle non-standard code. Most compatibility problems are because the site is blocking Opera anyway. If you mask Opera as Firefox, the sites will "magically" start working because they think you are using Firefox, so they send stuff that actually works instead of just blocking you.

I understand what you mean but opera promotes web standards more than any other brower. Opera: Web Standards Curriculum unlike IE.

 

Opera is slower on most phones, simply because it has more features (WinMo only)

 

The speed of a browser really doesn't matter much to me. All of the modern browsers are plenty fast. The biggest factor that keeps me from using an alternate browser like Opera are all of the various extensions I use on Firefox. I do have to say though, Opera has always been an impressive browser and a step ahead of it's time. The only problem I've had with it in the past is it seemed to have chronic stability issues. There were always a few select sites that were guaranteed to crash it.

 

All this talk about site issues... I guess I'm just lucky to never find any such site. :heh:

 

One major problem I face with Opera is that when loading lengthy pages (like forum pages), it half loads the page and then stops. You have to refresh it a few times before it loads the entire page, I've faced this problem since v9 up to the current version.

Its the primary reason I don't like it.

Oh yeah that, and add-ons :wub: