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DirectX 9.L will be a DirectX 10 for Windows XP

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#1 ·
Very interesting article about directx10 for XP. Here's the report from TheInquirer
WE MANAGED TO glean a few facts about the upcoming DirectX 9.0 L we told you about here.

DirectX 9.0 L is simply a renamed and refurbished DirectX 10 for Windows XP. It will make DirectX 10 games to work on Windows XP.

And games such as the upcoming Crysis won't work on the existing DirectX 9.0 c. they need a DirectX 9.0 L

One of the biggest issues is the fact that Nvidia or ATI won't have any mainstream or entry-level cards until at least mid- to end of Q1 2007. This suggests that if Vista tips up around the beginning of the year, gamers will be turned off by it.

Electronic Arts, the publisher of Crysis, wants to sell hundreds or thousands, even millions of copies and we doubt that Nvidia can produce and sell that many Geforce 8800 GTX and GTS cards.

It will be interesting to see whether the Windows XP Crysis will be different from the Vista ones. µ
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=35110
 
#3 ·
It will be interesting to see whether the Windows XP Crysis will be different from the Vista ones. µ
The crysis developer already replied to this themselves. Yes there'll be a huge difference the XP version will be about equal or even a bit worse than the Xbox 360 and PS3 version. While the Vista version ( unsurprisingly ) will be far superior to any of the other versions.

I hope more reputible sources are reporting this as well
Yeah, I think D.D. is kind of right that we shouldn't post anything from TheInquirer though it does make for interesting discussions :D
 
#5 ·
what i heard is 9.0L is an emulated version of dx10, which will obviously be slower than the original, but it will still run it as if it were dx10.
 
#6 ·
Woah woah, that's not what EYE heard.

DirectX 9.0 L (L stands for Longhorn) is supposedly for VISTA too.
Remember, DirectX 10 is supposedly not backward-compatible even with games.
Therefore DirectX 9.0 L will allow DirectX 9 games to operate without emulation.

The Inquirer also corrected their first article HERE

DirectX 9.0 L works on Vista only

L is for Longhorn. D'oh!

UNFORTUNATELY, we were wrong about DirectX 9.0 L.

We managed to confirm the existence of DirectX 9.0L but it won't be a DirectX 10 for Windows XP. It will be the other way around. It is a faster version of DirectX 9.0 that will run under Vista only.

So I have to disappoint all of you who expected to run DirectX 10 games under Windows XP (and apologise, huh, Fudo? News Ed.) as there won't be an API to supports it.

DX9.0L is a special version of DirectX 9 for Vista only that allows DX9 games to run with Vista's new driver model. It's not possible to run D3D10 on XP without running in pure software emulation.

The D3D10 API was designed around the new driver model in Vista. In addition, Aero Glass runs on DX9.0L. Aero Glass is one of the main reasons DX9.0L exists on Vista.

Our sources also confirmed that L in DirectX 9.0 L stands for Longhorn. So we are back at the beginning - you need to buy a new graphic card and a new OS to have the hardware DirectX 10 acceleration on an API that supports it.
 
#9 ·
Yeah, I think D.D. is kind of right that we shouldn't post anything from TheInquirer though it does make for interesting discussions :D
indeed it does :D i think perhaps inquirer things should be put into open discussion sorta like tabloid stuff.
 
#14 · (Edited)
More opengl for the people and nvidia. :lol:

And I had guessed DX9L would be for XP to make DX10 based games more compatible and "easier" to work with for DX9 cards but would run with less eye candy and without all those DX10 specific enhancements... damn.
 
#15 ·
I doubt it. Every OEM Computer in the coming year will have DX10 with Vista. OpenGL may get more attention, but it's not going to take over anytime soon.
No video card maker has announced any DX10 part yet. If they can't even churn the rumor mill with info on their DX10 parts yet, they are nowhere near releasing one. I say it's a good six months before a DX10 piece of desktop hardware ships, and another three months before there's a laptop part. Of course, they will be insanely priced.
 
#17 ·
You're right. Graphic cards were always behind DirectX. Once 10 is out, Material support will be implemented and soldered in the nextgen cards, not before. Material support always is better than software support, wich isnt much better than CPU software emulation.

It doesnt really matter for most people anyway, but gamers, will want to wait till those "superfast-directx10-optimized" cards are out before upgrading.
 
#19 · (Edited)
No video card maker has announced any DX10 part yet. If they can't even churn the rumor mill with info on their DX10 parts yet, they are nowhere near releasing one. I say it's a good six months before a DX10 piece of desktop hardware ships, and another three months before there's a laptop part. Of course, they will be insanely priced.
Both Nvidia and ATi has already announced that both of their next video cards will be Dx10 capable. There is already more concrete news about Nvidia's next video card and when it's going to be available. Nvidia is holding a PC gaming tournament next month to showcase/launch the new Dx10 card.

http://www.pdxlan.net/nvidia/news.php
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=4441

Of course much of the underlying tech is still up in the Air, but it's safe to say Nvidia and ATi's next cards will be Dx10 compliant.
 
#21 · (Edited)
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I'll translate.

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#22 ·
Wrong language, wrong forum... stupid question... Dang, almost three strikes :p
 
#25 ·
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Wow, i thought spam season was over.

on topic again. I really hope they as in "the internet" they produce an directx 10 that works under winxp... though my 6600gt is not dx10 anyways so i dont think it would help. But if I ever upgrade my videocard I'm not sure i want to buy vista.
 
#26 · (Edited)
Wow, i thought spam season was over.

on topic again. I really hope they as in "the internet" they produce an directx 10 that works under winxp... though my 6600gt is not dx10 anyways so i dont think it would help. But if I ever upgrade my videocard I'm not sure i want to buy vista.
Microsoft say DX10 cannot be ported to XP.
A conspiration for forcing future DX10 cards users to use Vista? or is it true? (coz they said the way Vista is built and DX10 too is completely different the way XP and DX9 are built).