Ati vs Nvidia

Galway no Sora · Jul 24, 2003

Ah, ok with performance balance. But about odd label, GFX5200 isn't the same? I mean, about Ti and FX label. Didn't these 2 company make the same "fool" ? GF4Ti has better speed, and GFX5200,5600 only shamed that FX labels with their slow and low performance agains Ti

Viperx25 · Jul 24, 2003

The Geforce FX 5200 and 5600 have DX9 support and much better FSAA quality than the TI line for about the same price as the TI4200 and 4600 respectively.

Hector · Jul 24, 2003

FX Better AntiAlising than ATI?You must be blind!I'll look later for some pictures to illustrate your blindness

fivefeet8 · Jul 24, 2003

Hector said:
FX Better AntiAlising than ATI?You must be blind!I'll look later for some pictures to illustrate your blindness

If you would've read his post right. He's talking about the "TI" line of Geforce4's. :???: Not ATi.

GSDragoon · Jul 24, 2003

The Geforce FX 5200 and 5600 have DX9 support and much better FSAA quality than the TI line for about the same price as the TI4200 and 4600 respectively.

He was comparing nVidia with other nVidia products.

Hector · Jul 24, 2003

Uops, sorry. That was a misunderstood. Acept my apologies

Nvidiafreak · Jul 24, 2003

A geforce fx 5600 can easily beat a gf4 Ti 4600, the 5200 is slower than the Ti line

Viperx25 · Jul 25, 2003

Hector said:
FX Better AntiAlising than ATI?You must be blind!I'll look later for some pictures to illustrate your blindness

Someone's quick to defend ATI

heh apology accepted

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Nvidiafreak said:
A geforce fx 5600 can easily beat a gf4 Ti 4600, the 5200 is slower than the Ti line

I was speaking generally, i don't care about ne of those cards anyway, i'm gettin an FX5900U

hehe.

Guest · Jul 25, 2003

Naming conventions never gonna change. Would you reccomend they name there new products to something less than a previous product?

I think thats silly anyways. Its common realisation that new does not always mean better.

But newer means higher labeling. In most products actually. Not just the graphic card market.

emulovesati · Jul 25, 2003

Me think it not fair to say Nvidia card faster. Nvidia cards have been slow for long time. They use cheats, hacks to make card go fast.

ATI also best for emu. All emu run better on ATI cards. ATI also can run emu at fastest with highest quality with best anti aliasing in business.

If you choose Nvidia card to play emu. You not getting good emu experience.

If you want to have best games and best picture. Go ATI. It the way of emu future.

Nvidiafreak · Jul 25, 2003

I can c ur an ati fanatic, Ati's first good gfx card was the 8500, nvidia's first was the Geforce 256.

emulovesati · Jul 25, 2003

me Dont know what a Fanatic is. But NVidias first good card was a Geforce 256 maybe. But they never make good card after Geforce 2.

Geforce 3 was ok. But it had bad pixel shader 1.1.

Geforce 4 was real bad. Slow graphics. Bad Anti Aliasing. Yucky Pixel Shader. Geforce cant dont pixel Shader 1.4! That is bad.

Have you seen dustblower FX 5800? So loud me cannot even think straight to play Games. ATI makes good cards. They never release dustblower type graphic cards.

At least they dont do bad cheat things in order to win benchmarks. Cheats are Bad. That makes ATI good. ATI dont cheat.

ATI better than Nvidia

GSDragoon · Jul 25, 2003

Nvidia is better for PSX emulation. Something about no AF on alpha bit textures for ATi.

emulovesati · Jul 25, 2003

No Way, Ati better Anti Aliasing. Anti Aliasing all that matters in Emulation.

ATI have prettier Emulation than Nvidia. Disagree? you no have ATI card then!

Have you seen Nvidia Anti Aliasing? It's ugly. It not get jaggeds very well.

Yeloazndevil · Jul 25, 2003

1. I had a Radeon 9800 Pro (sold it didn't like 9800 PRO mostly cuz it was defective

), used it in emulation (PSX, N64) ATI's FSAA looked good, but not any better than NVIDIA's

2. how could ATI have prettier Emulation than NVIDIA? if u use the same settings using Pete's OpenGL 1.72 plug-in they look all the same

3. who care's how pretty FSAA is, as long as it works who cares. have u seen the Voodoo5 FSAA it beats ATI and NVIDIA in quality.

I hate fanboy's, I'm not loyal to any side I buy graphics cards that give me the best performance for a good price..just my opinion

Geforce 4 was real bad. Slow graphics. Bad Anti Aliasing. Yucky Pixel Shader. Geforce cant dont pixel Shader 1.4! That is bad.

how would u kno, have u used a GF4TI? I have one..I play pc games, what slow graphics, what bad FSAA, whats wrong with its Pixel Shader?

Nvidiafreak · Jul 25, 2003

I would be willing to try an ati card if i had agp and enough money.

Yeloazndevil · Jul 25, 2003

ATI cards are great, but ATI is not better then NVIDIA, in my opinion they are equals...u should try one out I was amazed with the performance

Demigod · Jul 25, 2003

Viperx25 said:
The Geforce FX 5200 and 5600 have DX9 support and much better FSAA quality than the TI line for about the same price as the TI4200 and 4600 respectively.

I'd beg to differ. FSAA on the GF 4 and GF FX are pretty much equivalent in IQ, it's just a lot faster on the FX.

yeloazndevil said:
3. who care's how pretty FSAA is, as long as it works who cares. have u seen the Voodoo5 FSAA it beats ATI and NVIDIA in quality.

What do you mean who cares? Of course people care about FSAA quality. I mean would you rather use 2xFSAA instead of 6x, just because it works? And I disagree with the Voodoo 5 having superior FSAA. ATI's rotated-grid multisample AA is just as effective, if not more effective than the V5 (which blurred things a bit too much anyways).

emulovesati · Jul 25, 2003

yeloazndevil said:
1. I had a Radeon 9800 Pro (sold it didn't like 9800 PRO mostly cuz it was defective ), used it in emulation (PSX, N64) ATI's FSAA looked good, but not any better than NVIDIA's

2. how could ATI have prettier Emulation than NVIDIA? if u use the same settings using Pete's OpenGL 1.72 plug-in they look all the same

3. who care's how pretty FSAA is, as long as it works who cares. have u seen the Voodoo5 FSAA it beats ATI and NVIDIA in quality.

I hate fanboy's, I'm not loyal to any side I buy graphics cards that give me the best performance for a good price..just my opinion

how would u kno, have u used a GF4TI? I have one..I play pc games, what slow graphics, what bad FSAA, whats wrong with its Pixel Shader?

sigh me not fanboy. me just think ATI better than Nvidia. Why should I own Geforce 4 Ti when reviews show card ugly?

Why ati have prettier emulation? you must not know ati have better IQ than Nvidia. Well known fact. ATI much prettier than Nvidia. ATi have better Image Quality. You agree ATI better yes?

eww voodoo5s? They ugly. They ugly bad cards. Too big./ Take up too much space in PC. No anistropic Filtering. Who Buy Voodoo card for emulation when you can buy ATI card? ATI card way better.

Demigod said:
I'd beg to differ. FSAA on the GF 4 and GF FX are pretty much equivalent in IQ, it's just a lot faster on the FX.

What do you mean who cares? Of course people care about FSAA quality. I mean would you rather use 2xFSAA instead of 6x, just because it works? And I disagree with the Voodoo 5 having superior FSAA. ATI's rotated-grid multisample AA is just as effective, if not more effective than the V5 (which blurred things a bit too much anyways).

See he smart. he says ATi quality the best, he knows that pretty graphics are important. If you pay big dollars for Computer parts. You want pretty graphics.

Demigod. me Like you

Kane · Jul 25, 2003

me Dont know what a Fanatic is. But NVidias first good card was a Geforce 256 maybe. But they never make good card after Geforce 2.

A fanATIc is someone who is a staunch supporter of ATi. The literal meaning of Fanatic tho is 'A person marked or motivated by an extreme, unreasoning enthusiasm, as for a cause.' I disagree with your view tho.

Geforce 3 was ok. But it had bad pixel shader 1.1.

Well it was the first DirectX 8 card. Hell at the time it was light years ahead of the competition, and is still a very viable card today. Hell I can run any new game on the PC (apart from Enter the Matrix, but that's because it sucks) at full speed in 1024x768. It used fast multisample antialiasing and was the first card that made FSAA viable in the games that were released at the time (The Voodoo 5 was only good in older games and the geForce 2- were hideously slow with it on). Superb product.

Geforce 4 was real bad. Slow graphics. Bad Anti Aliasing. Yucky Pixel Shader. Geforce cant dont pixel Shader 1.4! That is bad.

So it doesn't use Pixel Shader 1.4. What app needed it? What app needs it now? The FSAA quality may be lower than ATi's in some respects, but you gotta admire the amount of choice of modes. There are at least 10 different FSAA modes to ATi's what 3? Slow graphics? What planet are you from? The geForce 4 Ti's were the fastest cards on the market when they came out, and for a good time after (till the Radeon 9700)

Have you seen dustblower FX 5800? So loud me cannot even think straight to play Games. ATI makes good cards. They never release dustblower type graphic cards.

nVidia released 1 card with the 'FX flow': The geForce FX 5800U. They made a mistake with that product. Don't say ATi never make mistakes or I will beat you to death with the Dumba$$ stick.

At least they dont do bad cheat things in order to win benchmarks. Cheats are Bad. That makes ATI good. ATI dont cheat.

You are too naive: Quack 3.

ATI better than Nvidia

Ok.... that just prooves you are a fanATIc

No Way, Ati better Anti Aliasing. Anti Aliasing all that matters in Emulation.

No... compatibility is more important. Up until very recently, ATi's cards have been hideously unreliable in PSX emulation, and there still are many issues in N64 emulation IIRC. Their Framebuffer read/write speed it pitiful even next to a lowly TNT2.
ATi are also limited to 2x, 4x or 6x FSAA. I can enable 2x, Quincunx, 2x2, 4x, 4x 9-Tap, 4xS, 6x, 8x, 8xS, and 12x on my geForce 3! 8xS is of similar or better quality to ATi's implementation.

ATI have prettier Emulation than Nvidia. Disagree? you no have ATI card then!

Gaz (one of my housemates) recently picked up an 8500 (eBay). He says it looks better on mine. Quality is a matter of perception, and there really ain't that much in it anymore.

Have you seen Nvidia Anti Aliasing? It's ugly. It not get jaggeds very well.

You obviously haven't ever used an nVidia card.

I finish with this: You are obvoiusly a fanATIc. I don't have a problem with these people, if they can come up with cohesive areguements which arn't purely based on 'I hate nVidia because I have an ATi card, so thus all nVidia cards must be shite'. Any arguement I throw at you will probably be thrown back with the equivalent of 'but ATi is better than nVidia so nyeeeer'.

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