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PCSX2 Game Statistics Index

This is an emulator performance index to track PCSX2 game performance and computer specifications. This is complementary to PCSX2 Game Troubleshooting Guide.

Data compilation for FPS Prediction Subsection Project cancelled [Out-dated]: Use for reference only.

The theory behind this thread is to create a unified statistical analysis of the many data fields gathered from the Screenshots Thread and other sources to aid in the developers' and end-users' analysis of the emulated experience. For a practical example, the Specification to FPS analysis should help reduce the spawning of "Is this PC powerful enough to run game X at decent speeds" threads.

The setup and layout are as follows: the first post (this post) will act as the primary indexing page whereas all future STATS posts or screenshots thread links will be linked to in an organized manner. That is, by means of categorizing each game in alphabetical order, and general articles in the respective order of importance. Each link will have by its side a brief detail of the peak FPS for the game, and the link to its corresponding KB article, if any.

If the same title exhibits similar performance despite the region, then a single STATS article will be linked for all. If there is more than one STATS entry per game, an advanced STATS page will be made for that game. This STATS page may contains benchmark with specifications and settings to assist with performance expectations.

By default, the setup will be such that individual games that have little data will be linked to the Screenshots post directly while those with more data can be analyzed specifically with specific STATS articles.

For complimentary purposes, attached is the indexed Screenshots Thread, GameStats.xls with 437 manually made entries with fields of:
GAME, REGION, STATUS, EMU_VERSION, OS, FPS_MENU_MIN, FPS_MENU_MAX, FPS_INGAME_MIN, FPS_INGAME_MAX, CPU_BRAND, CPU_MODEL, CPU_CLOCK, RAM, GPU_BRAND, GPU_MODEL PLUGIN_GS, PLUGIN_GS_VERSION, PLUGIN_SOUND PLUGIN_SOUND_VERSION, PLUGIN_CDVD, PLUGIN_CDVD_VERSION, Disable Forced ABS, EE/IOP Sync Hack, and REFERENCE.

The data was collected manually from the first 420 posts in the screenshots thread. Posts without FPS were analyzed based on the screenshots: for those with few screenshots, the FPS_INGAME_MAX is the highest value for the ingame screenshots. Those with multiple appropriate screenshots were evaluated with minimum and maximum. Those without any FPS details were dropped. Posts of games with menu problems while having minimal data were dropped. Posts claiming "full speed" were not recorded, as this was a relative opinion. Multiple reposts were accumulated in the analysis.

GameStats said:
STATS details about the GameStats file are as follows:
318 Unique Games, 118 repeated.
295 of 420 posts contained meaningful data.
Latest data version: GameStats 2008-5-11

Caution: Playable in the file adopts a different meaning than the one in the compatibility list.
The meaning implies the game seemed to work fine for the player at the time of testing, which may not be a complete testing, unlike in the compatibility list.


Due to the indexing, any posts in-between are welcomed as they will be disregarded when browsing through the actual index.

The format is below the index. A sample report is shown below this post.

Contribution will be much appreciated by anyone who finds a new means of analysis via a particular approach.

Do not ask performance questions or report bugs here. This thread is for the access and creation of STATS articles. Use the appropriate forums instead.
(Though suggestions for improvement would be appreciated.)

Use the browser search feature (Ctrl+F) to find partial game names.

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INDEX
General Performance

KB Articles
  1. CPU Performance Ranking Reference
  2. GPU Performance Ranking Reference
  3. PCSX2 Overall Specification vs. Performance - CPU and GPU Power Matter
  4. Reading Disk Images Faster than Reading Physical Disk - Article is not ready
  5. Game Slower on GSdx Software Mode but with more Accurate GS Emulation - Article is not ready


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If you wish to contribute, please follow the format below in order to keep the project organized.

Have the post title be the name of the STATS approach.
PHP:
[SIZE="3"][B]STATS Approach Title Goes Here[/B][/SIZE]

[SIZE="2"][B]Thesis[/B][/SIZE]
Thesis go here

[SIZE="2"][B]Procedure[/B][/SIZE]
Procedures go here

[SIZE="2"][B]Data and Analysis[/B][/SIZE]
Formal data analysis content goes here.

[SIZE="2"][B]Conclusion[/B][/SIZE]
Conclusion of analysis goes here

[SIZE="2"][B]Notes[/B][/SIZE]
(Optional) Additional notes go here.

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Clarifications:
  • Thesis is the main argument to be proved.
  • Procedures include the methodology of data collection and experimentation for the data, new or old, and the explaination for the approach to the analysis.
  • Data and Analysis includes, but by no means is limited to, the use of tables, charts, calculations, and images for the proof of the theory.
  • Notes include, but is not limited to, the content to which the study is applicable.

To take responsibility to handle a sub-index:
Have the post title be the name of the general category of study or the name of the game.
PHP:
[SIZE="3"][B]Sub-Index[/B][/SIZE]

[B][I]STATS Articles:[/I][/B]


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[*][URL="http://forums.ngemu.com/#######-post##.html"]Given Summary Title[/URL]

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Discussion starter · #2 · (Edited)
Game FPS Sub-Index

[PEAK FPS] Game Name
* - Compiled STATS Article
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[55] .hack//G.U.
[60] 10,000 Bullets
[50] 7 Blades
[60] Adnan and Lina
[45] Another Century's Episode 3 *
[60] Ar tonelico: Melody of Elemia *
[60] Arc the Lad: End of Darkness
[60] Arc the Lad: Twilight of the Spirits
[25] Arcana Heart
[60] Aruze Oukoku 6
[0] Baroque
[39] Beach King Stunt Racers
[14] Beat Down
[60] Berserk Millennium Falcon Arc: Chapter of the Record of the Holy Demon War
[34] Bleach: Blade Battlers
[41] Bleach: Hanatareshi Yabou
[30] Bloody Roar 4
[55] Brazucas 2007
[14] Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter
[50] Bully: Canis Canim Edit
[60] Burnout 2: Point of Impact
[32] Busou Renkin
[41] Captain Tsubasa
[57] Castlevania: Lament of Innocence
[40] Chou-Jikuu Yousai Macross
[60] Code Gears
[20] Contra: Shattered Soldier
[51] Crash Bandicoot: The Wrath of Cortex
[20] Crash of the Titans
[8] Crash Twinsanity
[60] Crimson Sea 2
[60] Crimson Tears
[60] Cy Girls
[60] Dark Cloud
[60] Dark Cloud 2
[60] Dave Mirra Freestyle BMX 2
[51] Deadly Strike
[51] Death by Degrees
[0] Def Jam: Fight for NY
[41] Demon Chaos
[51] Devil Kings
[60] Devil May Cry
[60] Devil May Cry 2
[34] Devil May Cry 3
[30] Devil May Cry 3 Special Edition
[29] Digital Devil Saga 2
[57] Dino Stalker
[60] Disgea 2: Cursed Memories *
[51] Disney's PK: Out of the Shadows
[60] Dot Hack Outbreak Part 3
[25] Dragon Ball Z: Budokai
[50] Dragon Ball Z: Budokai 3
[34] Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi
[37] Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 2
[60] Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 3 *
[50] Dragon Ball Z: Sparking Meteor
[60] Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King
[24] Dragon Sisters
[32] Drakan: The Ancients' Gate
[60] Drakengard
[44] Drakengard 2
[60] Dynasty Warriors 3
[60] Dynasty Warriors 4
[60] Dynasty Warriors 5: Xtreme Legends
[60] Ephemeral Fantasia
[60] Eternal Ring
[46] Evergrace
[60] Evil Dead
[60] Fatal Fram
[12] Fight Night: Round 3
[51] Final Fantasy VII: Dirge of Cerberus
[60] Final Fantasy X *
[60] Final Fantasy X-2 *
[60] Final Fantasy XII
[60] Final Fantasy XII: Collector's Edition
[60] Final Fight: Streetwise
[60] Front Mission 4
[40] Front Mission 5
[10] Garouden: First or Twist
[30] Genji: Dawn of the Samurai
[60] Giga Zone
[12] Global Defense Force
[60] God Hand
[40] God of War
[15] Godzilla Unleashed
[60] Gradius 5
[60] Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec
[10] Gran Turismo 4
[10] Gran Turismo Concept 2002 Tokyo-Games
[60] Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories
[40] Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories
[60] Grandia III
[60] Grandia Xtreme
[40] Grim Grimoire
[35] GrimGrimoire
[60] Growlanser II: The Sense of Justice
[60] Growlanser III: The Dual Darkness
[40] Guilty Gear Isuka
[33] Guilty Gear X
[25] Guitar Hero 2
[60] Gundam Seed Destiny: Alliance vs. ZAFT II Final Plus
[60] Gungrave
[38] Happy Feet
[55] Harvest Moon: A Wonderful Life
[30] Haunting Ground
[55] Hihouden
[60] Hokuto no Ken
[60] Hokuto no Ken Sinpan no Sousousei Kengo Retsuden
[60] Ikkitousen
[12] Inuyasha: Federal Combat
[13] Jet Li: Rise to Honour
[60] Jikkyō World Soccer 2000
[32] Kamen Rider Faiz 555
[60] Kamen Rider Seigi no Keifu
[2] Killzone
[60] KimiKiss
[39] King of Fighters 2006
[60] King of Fighters XI
[60] King of Fighters: Maximum Impact
[16] King of Fighters: Maximum Impact Regulation "A"
[60] Kingdom Hearts *
[60] Kingdom Hearts II
[40] Kingdom Hearts II: Final Mix
[40] Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories
[33] Klonoa 2
[50] Knights of the Temple 2
[0] Kunoichi
[14] Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver 2
[60] Legaia 2: Duel Saga
[45] Loony Toons: Space Race
[33] Mai-Otome: Otome Butou Shi
[60] Marvel vs. Capcom 2
[51] Maximo: Ghost to Glory
[25] Medal of Honor: Rising Sun
[60] Megaman X: Command Mission
[30] Megaman X8
[2] Metal Gear Solid 2
[45] Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty
[60] Metal Gear Solid 3: Subsistence
[42] Metal Slug 3D
[45] Metal Slug 5
[40] Michigan: Report F rom Hell
[60] Minna Daisuki Katamaridamacy
[0] Minna no Golf 4
[60] Mobile Suit Gundam: Zeonic Front
[60] Monster Hunter
[22] Mortal Kombat: Armageddon
[13] Mortal Kombat: Deadly Alliance
[10] Mortal Kombat: Deception
[60] Mushihime-Sama
[60] Nanatsuiro★Doroppusu: Pure
[60] Nano Breaker
[25] NARC
[60] Naruto Shippuuden: Narutimate Accel
[60] Naruto Shippuuden: Narutimate Accel 2
[60] Naruto: Ultimate Ninja 2 *
[2] Naruto: Ultimate Ninja 3
[60] Naruto: Uzumaki Chronicles
[5] Need For Speed: Hot Pursuit 2
[5] Need For Speed: Most Wanted
[0] Need for Speed: ProStreet
[36] Need For Speed: Underground 1
[42] Neo Contra
[60] NeoGeo Battle Coliseum
[60] Nights into Dreams…
[23] Obscure: The Aftermath
[60] Odin Sphere
[60] Okami
[12] One Piece: Grand Battle 4
[43] Onimusha 2
[60] Onimusha: Down of Dreams
[60] Pac-Man World 2
[21] Pac-Man World 3
[29] Phantasy Star Universe
[22] Pirates: The Legend of Black Kat
[25] Pro Evolution Soccer
[60] Pro Evolution Soccer 5
[42] Project Arms
[60] Project Zero
[60] PsyChic Force Complete
[60] Puyo Pop Fever
[60] R Racing Evolution
[60] Raiden III
[60] Rakushou Pachislot Sengen 4
[60] Ratchet and Clank: Size Matters
[0] Ratchet and Clank: Up Your Arsenal
[60] Resident Evil
[60] Resident Evil 4
[60] Resident Evil: Code Veronica
[35] Resident Evil: Outbreak
[60] Resident Evil: Outbreak: File 2
[60] Ridge Racer 5
[50] Rim Runners
[60] Rockman X7
[60] Rogue Galaxy
[55] Romance of the Three Kingdoms 7
[43] Romancing Saga
[3] Rozen Maiden Gebetgarten
[60] Rumble Roses
[60] Rurouni Kenshin: Enjou! Kyoto Rinne
[51] Saint Seiya: Chapter Sanctuary
[40] Saint Seiya: The Hades
[35] Samurai Champloo: Sidetracked
[50] Samurai Warriors
[42] Samurai Western
[60] SD Gundam G Generation Spirits
[10] Sega Ages Volume 16 - Virtua Fighter 2
[10] Sega Ages Volume 8 - Virtua Racing
[10] Sega Rally 2006
[54] Seven Samurai
[60] Shadow Hearts
[33] Shadow Hearts: From the New World
[43] Shadow of Rome
[48] Shadow of the Colossus
[24] Shadow the Hedgehog
[60] Shake 2
[60] Shaman King: Power of Spirits
[60] Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner
[60] Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne
[60] Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3 *
[55] Shin Yoshimune
[60] Shining Force Neo
[2] Shinobi
[25] Silent Hill
[60] Silent Hill 2
[24] Silent Hill Origins
[56] Siren 2
[60] Sonic Heroes
[51] Sonic Riders
[50] Soul Calibur 2
[15] Soul Calibur 3
[37] Spartan: Total Warrior
[36] Sphinx and Cursed Mummy
[25] Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory
[60] Star Wars 3: Revenge of the Sith
[7] Star Wars: Bounty Hunter
[60] Stella Deus
[51] Street Fighter EX3
[38] Street Fighter Third Strike
[51] Suikoden III
[36] Suikoden IV
[42] Suikoden Tactics
[60] Suikoden V
[35] Summer Heat Beach Volleyball
[26] Summoner 2
[39] Super Dragon Ball Z
[30] Super Monkey Ball Deluxe
[18] Super Robot Taisen: Scramble Commander 2nd
[58] Super Robot Wars: Original Generation
[25] Suzumiya Haruhi no Tomadoi
[20] Sword of the Samurai
[60] Syphon Filter: The Omega Strain
[19] Tales of Legendia
[28] Tales of the Abyss
[60] Tekken 4
[35] Tekken 5
[33] Tekken Tag Tournament
[60] Tenchu
[45] The Battle of Yu Yu Hakusho 120%
[57] The Bouncer
[52] The King of Fighters: Neo Wave
[43] The Lord of the Rings: The Third Age
[60] The Nightmare of Druaga: Mysterious Dongeons
[60] The Rumble Fish
[12] The Sims 2
[50] TimeSplitters
[40] Tokyo Xtreme Racer: Drift 2
[60] Tokyo Xtreme Racer: Zero
[10] Tomoyo After CS Edition
[60] Twisted Metal: Head-On
[55] Ultraman
[36] Ultraman Fighting Evolution 3
[39] Ultraman Fighting Evolution: Rebirth
[42] Urban Reign
[15] Virtua Fighter 4
[25] Virtua Fighter 4: Evolution
[51] Warriors Orochi
[24] Wild Arms 3
[40] Wild Arms 4
[60] Wild Arms 5
[50] Wrestle Angel Survivor
[25] WWE 2008
[55] WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2006
[60] WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2007
[60] WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2008
[60] Xenosaga Episode I
[60] Xenosaga Episode II
[12] Xenosaga Episode III
[60] XGRA
[30] X-Men Legends II: Rise of Apocalypse
[50] Yamasa Digi Slot World 3
[33] Yu Yu Hakusho Forever
[49] Yu-Gi-Oh GX: Tag Force Evolution
[60] Zatch Bell! Mamodo Battles
[40] Zero no Tsukaima: Muma ga Tsumugu Yokaze no Gensoukyoku
[60] Zombie Hunters 2
 
Discussion starter · #4 ·
To improve the effectiveness of the PCSX2 forum environment and to formulate useful data compilation, using the feedback the PCSX2 supporters have put forth throughout the years, to potentially help the PCSX2 team seemed to be beneficial for all.
 
Discussion starter · #6 ·
The general performance articles link to the root of the forum? The address has only #s.
The thread layout has not been completed yet. Just like the PCSX2 Game Troubleshooting Guide, it will take a while to get started.

It took the entire day to get much of the latter half of the Screenshots Thread into Excel. It might have to wait until tomorrow to get some of the content up. The Game FPS Sub-Index post was put up temporarily in order to slightly fill the void.
 
Not trying to discount the awesomeness of this thread but...
Keep in mind some people are using frame limiting, therefore some peak numbers are not that accurate for the system spec. I am not sure if this is your intention, but unless you have standardized hardware, the numbers are meaningless and cannot be directly compared.
 
The numbers have a very big meaning.. If one user has 50/60fps on his machine it means
that game can be played fullspeed.
There are many titles that, due to bugs, do not reach fullspeed on even the highest specs.

GeominorAI: This thread prolly means a lot of work for you, i do hope you can keep it up :)
 
That isn't what I am trying to say. If a user can get 60fps on some game on a say 3.6GHz Core2. What does it mean for someone with a 2.2Ghz X2? Nothing at all except that he'll run much slower than the guy with 3.6. If the numbers are normalized on a standard hardware, a rough performance number could be extrapolated. All you need is a multiplier. For example you normalized on a 2.0 C2D. And you got a 3.0 one. Use a 1.5 multiplier and you can get a rough number of your performance. Add a modifier for x2 architecture and you can extrapolate the rough numbers for X2s. (This is assuming no GPU bottleneck of course)
 
Discussion starter · #10 ·
The numbers have a very big meaning.. If one user has 50/60fps on his machine it means
that game can be played fullspeed.
There are many titles that, due to bugs, do not reach fullspeed on even the highest specs.

GeominorAI: This thread prolly means a lot of work for you, i do hope you can keep it up :)
Will do.

And yes, the peak-limit issue was noticed about a quarter way into the data entry. It was left that way to see how certain specifications stand out compared to the rest. At the point of actual analysis for the games, the peak will be trimmed at 60. In a semi-related note, the FPS on screenshots were generally floored before being entered into the spreadsheet.

I have been working on a 3D-graphing setup on Excel for this thread. It should be up in the next few days.
 
Good luck with it man. You do alot of nice things like this, which are very helpful to users who know how to search.
 
Discussion starter · #12 ·
Thanks.

Optimistically, I will try to keep up with the ideas for new articles so that this thread can be kept at the surface of the thread pool.
That way, even those who know not how to search can be helped as well.
 
Nice initiative there,we've thought of this but the trouble of maintaining it has put us off.
I'd very much prefer an average FPS field instead of max FPS because in many games like the Samurai/Dynasty Warriors ones you can get full speed with few enemies but it's mostly at 30fps on a very fast machine.
If this turns out well,I could put it along with the troubleshooting thread in the FAQ (but as said,very few people read the stickies anyway)
Good job ;)
 
Discussion starter · #17 · (Edited)
Agreed, but 92 of the entries did not have an FPS_INGAME_MIN due to the data having been extracted from the few screenshots posted by certain users, or there was no minimum provided by the user.
This includes the ones that claim "@60 FPS," which does not reflect any fluctuation.

The affected titles were (including variations of the same game):
GameStats said:
Aruze Oukoku 6
Baroque
Beat Down
Code Gears
Contra: Shattered Soldier
Deadly Strike
Def Jam: Fight for NY
Devil May Cry
Devil May Cry 2
Devil May Cry 2
Devil May Cry 2
Devil May Cry 3 Special Edition
Disgea 2: Cursed Memories
Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tekaichi 2
Dragon Sisters
Drakengard
Ephemeral Fantasia
Eternal Ring
Evergrace
Evil Dead
Final Fantasy X
Final Fantasy X
Final Fantasy X
Final Fantasy X International
Final Fantasy X-2
Final Fantasy X-2
Final Fantasy XII
Final Fantasy XII
Final Fantasy XII
Final Fantasy XII: Collector's Edition
Giga Zone
Global Defense Force
God of War
Gradius 5
Gran Turismo 4
Gran Turismo 4
Haunting Ground
Hokuto no Ken
Ikkitousen
Jikkyō World Soccer 2000
KimiKiss
King of Fighters XI
Kingdom Hearts
Kingdom Hearts II
Kingdom Heats II
Kunoichi
Maximo: Ghost to Glory
Metal Gear Solid 3: Subsistence
Minna Daisuki Katamaridamacy
Minna no Golf 4
Mortal Kombat: Armageddon
Mortal Kombat: Deception
Mushihime-Sama
Naruto Ultimate Ninja 2
Naruto Ultimate Ninja 2
Naruto: Ultimate Ninja 3
Need For Speed: Most Wanted
Neo Contra
NeoGeo Battle Coliseum
Obscure: The Aftermath
Onimusha: Down of Dreams
Pro Evolution Soccer
PsyChic Force Complete
Raiden III
Rakushou Pachislot Sengen 4
Ratchet and Clank: Up Your Arsental
Resident Evil 4
Resident Evil 4
Resident Evil: Outbreak
Resident Evil: Outbreak
Rozen Maiden Gebetgarten
Sega Ages Volume 16 - Virtua Fighter 2
Shinobi
Sonic Heroes
Star Wars 3: Revenge of the Sith
Stella Deus
Street Fighter EX 3
Suikoden Tactics
Sword of the Samurai
Tales of Legendia
Tales of the Abyss
The Bouncer
The Bouncer
The Bouncer
The Lord of the Rings: The Third Age
The Nightmare of Druaga: Mysterious Dongeons
Tomoyo After CS Edition
Twisted Metal: Head-On
Ultraman Fighting Evolution: Rebirth
WWE Smackdown vs. Raw 2008
WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2008
WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2008
X-Men Legends II: Rise of Apocalypse
Yu Yu Hakusho Forever
Zero no Tsukaima: Muma ga Tsumugu Yokaze no Gensoukyoku
An estimated FPS_INGAME_MIN could probably be made for these by taking 25% off the maximum.

During the data entry, some of the FPS_INGAME_MAX stood out completely from the rest of the screenshots, so the FPS_INGAME_MIN was entered in as an exception to make average calculations reflect the performance better.
 
Peak FPS isn't perhaps the best to list rather minimum fps then, but I'd also prefer average but it's pretty difficult of course to maintain a reliable database of this as user's measures/estimates may not always be so exact which is understandable as not every1 have the interest in playing the game for a long time only to keep an eye on the FPS.

However I don't have trouble estimating relative FPS results from a person's result for a person with another computer in the same parts of the game currently in today's computer market but keeping a database of the games' FPS would be far more difficult IMO or you'll just have to accept it's gonna be far from accurate.
 
i think some of the games should be filtered out, the ones being run on peoples laptops or single core computers. just because it throws off accurate estimates and such. But very nice job on compiling all of this.
 
One thing to take into consideration, is that older posts may not accurately reflect certain games performance. Back when the initial posts were made people where still using GSdx9 10.x and several speed improvements still were on their way just considering the gs plugins alone.

Now days people are usually using the pcsx2 beta builds which also have yielded performance increases (and thats not even considering speed hacks which can skew the results further).

Maybe if need be people can submit updated min/max/average fps for games that do not reflect currently submitted data entries. (hopefully doing so with speed hacks disabled)
 
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