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so here is the long awaited release of vista and office 07>>in india<< and more surprisingly it would be available only on preloaded vista comps that cost above 600$ also zenith announced its vista series today with comps ranging from 600$>>for amd 3200 to a whooping 2000$>>quad cores<<
source:The Hindu : Front Page News : Wednesday, February 07, 2007 registration required to view the article
couple of surprising things there first of all the availability of vista to preloaded systems only is gonna be a set back for vista is for sure also it will be interesting to see how vista spreads its legs in middle income group countries like india
 
Actually preloaded Vista are part of the sales and Microsoft will help it spread vis preloaded copies.

I intend to wait a few months to see how good software and hardware compatibility gets and how well it's received by the general market before considering about buying Vista.
Early adopters of some technology such as game consoles and OSes usually gets the short end of the stick as they have no idea how things are going to go in the long term.
 
Meanwhile many Linux distributions have been offering every Vista has to offer for months now and for... $0... just a senseless rambling of mine though, don't pay too much attention to me :p

Though I've got to agree with what many analysts have to say about Vista and it's greatest enemy... which isn't Mac OS, or any Linux distrubution, but Windows XP itself.
 
It's funny that with a few service packs XP could probably be good for another decade and MS is releasing something that is not really that much more than an overpriced copy of XP with things that could probably be added with a few service packs to compete with it.
 
i took even less than miretank, i am sure, i took 0 seconds! it's really easy to go around it, stay with XP :dead:
blah, maybe i would get vista (no discussing how) to try it out, and then maybe buy it when the prices fall down to at least $100, if i like it better than xp. But we know that will never happen, have you noticed that windows XP prices are still as high as at release? (at least here in Norway)
 
Microsoft confirms Vista Speech Recognition remote execution flaw

XP is still priced well below Vista, and XP will remain in every way the better of the two OSes at least for another two months.

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Microsoft confirms Vista Speech Recognition remote execution flaw


After my initial reports on the first Vista Remote Exploit, a Microsoft spokesperson responded to me with the following message.
Thanks for your patience as I looked into this. I heard back from the folks at the MSRC, and they let me know that Microsoft is investigating public reports of a possible vulnerability in Windows Vista’s speech recognition feature. Microsoft’s initial investigation reveals that this vulnerability could allow an attacker to use the speech recognition feature in Windows Vista to verbally execute commands on a user’s computer. The attackers’ commands are limited to the rights of the logged on user. User Account Control prohibits the attacker from executing any administrative level commands.
In order for an attack to be successful, the user would have to have a microphone and speakers connected to their system. In addition, the user would have had to configure the speech recognition feature. The attackers’ audio file would then issue verbal commands via the systems speakers that could potentially be carried out by the speech recognition feature. Based on the initial investigation, Microsoft recommends customers take the following action to protect themselves from potential exploitation of the reported vulnerability:
  • A user can turn off their computer speakers and/or microphone.
  • If a user does run an audio file that attempts to execute commands on their system, they should close the Windows Media Player, turn off speech recognition and restart their computer.
Microsoft will continue its investigation and will provide additional guidance and mitigation to further help protect customers as necessary. Upon completion of this investigation, Microsoft will take further action to help protect our customers.
It’s important to note that Windows Vista has been developed with the highest attention to security and is the first client-based operating system to go through the complete Security Development Lifecycle (SDL). Building on the significant security advances in Windows XP Service Pack 2, Windows Vista includes fundamental architectural changes that will help make customers more secure from evolving threats, including worms, viruses, and malware. These improvements minimize the operating system’s attack surface area, which in turn improves system and application integrity and helps organizations more securely manage and isolate their networks.
Customers who believe they are affected should contact Product Support Services, at no charge, using the PC Safety line (1866-PCSAFETY) and international customers by using any method found at this location: Security Help and Support for Home Users.
This pretty much confirms what I've been saying all along and I had recommended that Vista users do not leave their Speech Recognition feature unattended. However, good security defenses should never rely on user action to prevent exploits. It is my belief that Microsoft should filter out sounds coming from the computer which makes its way back in to the system via Microphone before it gets processed by the Speech Recognition engine as the long term solution. A short term solution is for Microsoft to implement keywords like Apple which allows a user to select a unique word to say to unlock a speech recognition engine. At this point in time, Microsoft will not commit to a patch and are still investigating the issue.
I've also done some further experimentation that this exploit can be very nasty even if it can't execute with administrative privileges or bypass UAC. I have verified that I can create a sound file that can wake Vista speech recognition, open Windows Explorer, delete the documents folder, and then empty the trash. Then we have to consider the fact that people do leave many webpages open over night and some of those may have rotating flash ads that can play sounds. If that's not a serious exploit, I don't know what is. One can always rebuild system files by reinstalling the Operating System, data files can't be recovered since the vast majority of people don't backup.
This is one reason I am waiting a few months before deciding on Vista.
 
That's a flaw? No it isn't. It's the same thing if a guy standing next to me would use speech recognition and controls my computer. Or if I would play Stairway to Heaven and the computer would try to interpret the song as commands. A software not being designed for complete dimwits with no common sense is NOT a flaw.
 
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