Your problem is MY freedom!

no, its using illegal tactics to force any competitors out

Squall-Leonhart said:

no, its using illegal tactics to force any competitors out

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Welcome to America. Hi, I'm John Doe! I pay taxes and get ripped off on a daily basis.

This is my son, Jonathan Doe. He'll be something some day if "The Man" doesn't get to him.

strike105x said:

When bill gates wakes up do you really think the first thing he says is omg what did GF and Gossamer did today i must know !!!11

Answer no

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Like hell he doesn't, we're important people, goddamnit!

Gossamer said:

Like hell he doesn't, we're important people, goddamnit!

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:rotflmao: thx i got good lols from that

gamefreak94 said:

No, but they do rob their customers real bad and turn them into their slaves by accepting the EULA and terms & conditions....

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Charging for your product != robbery.

^ I forgot about that part

Gossamer said:

Welcome to America. Hi, I'm John Doe! I pay taxes and get ripped off on a daily basis.

This is my son, Jonathan Doe. He'll be something some day if "The Man" doesn't get to him.



Like hell he doesn't, we're important people, goddamnit!

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:rotflmao:

Spyhop said:

Charging for your product != robbery.

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Windows XP Pro: $150
Windows Vista Ultimate: $210
MS Office 2007: $120

Charging 200 bucks for CD with bloatware on it isn't very encouraging to the customer to say the least.... and now you're probably gonna rant about the fact that there's Vista Home Basic for the budget-minded person, well if I'm gonna pay $80 for that, might as well just download and install TinyCore since the difference between the 2 is negligible....

Except for :"Charging 200 bucks for CD with bloatware on it isn't very encouraging to the customer to say the least...." which is right from many points of view it does seems there charging much more then it would seems fair/right on there product, but (and here is where we go on our separate ways):
1. its there product if they want they can charge 1 billion its there right, not you nor me have the right to set the price for either microsoft's or anyone else's product.
2. which is very related to 1 they dont force you to buy it, you dont need microsoft to survive, you can use a PC just fine without Microsoft's products (except gaming but there are consoles out there and you can play a few games on linux to some extent).

Bad news for you, But good news for me. As for the EULE, It can kiss our asses.

gamefreak94 said:

Windows XP Pro: $150
Windows Vista Ultimate: $210
MS Office 2007: $120

Charging 200 bucks for CD with bloatware on it isn't very encouraging to the customer to say the least.... and now you're probably gonna rant about the fact that there's Vista Home Basic for the budget-minded person, well if I'm gonna pay $80 for that, might as well just download and install TinyCore since the difference between the 2 is negligible....

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Don't buy it then. Go get a mac, or use linux.
Those prices aren't unreasonable for software though. Pretty cheap, actually, compared to a lot of other software.
You not liking the price != robbery. You can't possibly expect MS to give it away.

I'm really hoping this isn't applied to Windows 7, or any operating system for that matter.

Bogard said:

I'm really hoping this isn't applied to Windows 7, or any operating system for that matter.

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Of course it will be. How is it a problem?

Gossamer said:

"On Tuesday, Microsoft was granted US Patent No. 7,536,726 (it was filed in 2005) for intentionally crippling the functionality of an operating system by 'making selected portions and functionality of the operating system unavailable to the user or by limiting the user's ability to add software applications or device drivers to the computer' until an 'agreed upon sum of money' is paid to 'unlock or otherwise make available the restricted functionality.' According to Microsoft, this solves a 'problem inherent in open architecture systems,' i.e., 'they are generally licensed with complete use rights and/or functionality that may be beyond the need or desire of the system purchaser.' An additional problem with open architecture systems, Microsoft explains, is that 'virtually anyone can write an application that can be executed on the system."

Read this ****.

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The wording of this makes it seem far more worse than it is.

Spyhop said:

Of course it will be. How is it a problem?

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It's probably just going to push away loyal Microsoft customers.

Of course, that's just my opinion, and I'm most likely wrong about it.

This thread just reeks of fail. Spyhop is correct on every point in this thread.

Whoever disagrees is a dumbass. Seriously.

Bogard said:

It's probably just going to push away loyal Microsoft customers.

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How, exactly? The only people I see this pissing off is pirates.

I couldn't care less.. There's no way for em to lock the windows... It's impossible.. A simple crack would bypass this, so I think they wouldn't waste their time and money doing this. They aren't that stupid.

Can someone explain this to me in English? The point I'm troubled about is it seems to indicate Microsoft will limit what you can run on your PC. Say I want to run shareware, freeware, or emulation, they could say **** you, that isn't acceptable, you can't run it on your PC. They could also use something like WGA to monitor your OS for cracks and disable it and cancel your license if you break their EULA in this arrangement, and I'm supposed to be cool with that?

Telling people what they can run on their PCs?

Bah.. That would beat the very Windows' purpose. They ain't gonna do that...

Paratech said:

Can someone explain this to me in English? The point I'm troubled about is it seems to indicate Microsoft will limit what you can run on your PC. Say I want to run shareware, freeware, or emulation, they could say **** you, that isn't acceptable, you can't run it on your PC. They could also use something like WGA to monitor your OS for cracks and disable it and cancel your license if you break their EULA in this arrangement, and I'm supposed to be cool with that?

Telling people what they can run on their PCs?

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No, this is for windows features. ie. if you buy basic, and you later want media centre, you can buy the feature.

either that or a way to get pirates to pay up. Either way, I doubt it will have much effect on honest customers.

Paratech said:

Can someone explain this to me in English? The point I'm troubled about is it seems to indicate Microsoft will limit what you can run on your PC. Say I want to run shareware, freeware, or emulation, they could say **** you, that isn't acceptable, you can't run it on your PC. They could also use something like WGA to monitor your OS for cracks and disable it and cancel your license if you break their EULA in this arrangement, and I'm supposed to be cool with that?

Telling people what they can run on their PCs?

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They could have done this at any given point. By patenting it they're just preventing people from suing them for it (to an extent).

If they abuse their power, people will protest, they'll lose sales, and so they go back on what they've done. Thankfully, Microsoft (no matter what image they give off) isn't run by idiots, so odds are, they're not going to intentionally hand over their customers to Apple.

Money drives Microsoft. They need customers to make money. Making the customers angry means less money. They're not going to intentionally piss off the customers.