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i dont know how things are in Spy case but in mine i dont like unfair accusations :p
It's not just this, Spyhop defends M$ in practically EVERY discussion about this topic. Jeez its a freakin' money-drunk capitalist corporation, there's no getting around that.

No, I just feel people regard them unfairly because they're successful. They've made some mistakes, yeah, but nothing deserving of the sheer malevolence the general public regards them with. They can't do ANYTHING, good or bad, without people seeing some hidden agenda or conspiracy. I find the bandwagon M$ hate asinine.
See above :p
 

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No, but they do rob their customers real bad and turn them into their slaves by accepting the EULA and terms & conditions....
 

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Welcome to America. Hi, I'm John Doe! I pay taxes and get ripped off on a daily basis.

This is my son, Jonathan Doe. He'll be something some day if "The Man" doesn't get to him.



Like hell he doesn't, we're important people, goddamnit!
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Charging for your product != robbery.
Windows XP Pro: $150
Windows Vista Ultimate: $210
MS Office 2007: $120

Charging 200 bucks for CD with bloatware on it isn't very encouraging to the customer to say the least.... and now you're probably gonna rant about the fact that there's Vista Home Basic for the budget-minded person, well if I'm gonna pay $80 for that, might as well just download and install TinyCore since the difference between the 2 is negligible.... :rolleyes:
 

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I've never felt the need for any Windows updates.

I've also deleted the registry key that's crucial for downloading updates, plus I've disabled a s*** load of services which report various errors and events to M$.

No connecting to M$'s servers = no stupid WGA
 

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Proof? Even if there is a problem, what are the likelihoods that a Windows update fixed that problem. Regardless of that, 5 minutes of Googling usually leads to a quick and easy answer.
 

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Do you not update your drivers either?
I update all my drivers regularly....I just avoid connecting M$'s servers as far as possible. No stupid IE7, WMP11 or WLM downloads that require WGA checks during installation (it might still pass as BigIg said, but there's no assurance, plus the benefit from the 3 is also very minimal IMO).

Firefox + K-Lite Codec Pack + Emesene FTW!

I update hardware often enough and the odd time I've had to call MS for an activation, it's been pretty painless.
Till you consider what the call charges are for the other side of the world........
 

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You had a moron on the phone then. Just call again and get a new rep. They're supposed to let you transfer an OEM license if the hardware was replaced due to malfunction. Although it COULD make a difference if you have some proprietary HP license or something, I've never had to deal with that.

Mind you, I've been on the same license through multiple hardware revisions. Most MS reps know and just don't care.

If it's mission-critical for you to have a transferable license, you're supposed to get a retail copy, not OEM.
Yeah........still easier to pull off an ISO in 3 hours from the net though.....

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The LEAST of windows updates deal with things like IE or WMP.
The important ones patch security holes, improve performance, and fix bugs.
Security loopholes? Oh yeah I have something that deals with those, its called a third party firewall. As for security updates which have "critical" status, I've managed to find a reliable source from the net that packs them into an exe and then you can download and install them without even touching M$. And what if it tried to connect during installation? Well I physically disconnect my network cable whenever I install anything published by M$ :evil:

Yes I know I'm a tad paranoid.
 

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Can someone explain to gamefreak why not updating windows is foolish in terms he'll understand? I seem to be failing.
Windows updates are epic fail. The last thing I need on my already meager 300kbps connection is a stupid M$ updater downloading infinite TBs of updates that do nothing more then add a ****-load of blue-colored folder in my Windows folder and clog my already 80% full HDD even more.
 

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If you go scuba diving, and you buy the most expensive equipment ever, with the best of everything humanly imaginable... but your air tank has a leak, are you any safer? Not really. By the time you'll need anything else you'd already be dead.

Same logic if you don't update. If you're not going to let Microsoft see your computer and fix it, than you're letting the rest of the world into it. Your choice - the professionals, or the hackers. Pretty obvious choice if you ask me...
Did you read the bit about obtaining critical status security updates via another source? Even then I don't dl all of them, like if there's an update saying "Critical security loop-hole in Windows Live Messenger when connecting via port 80" or something then I'm just gonna ditch it. The only M$ apps I use are MS Office and WMP 9, that's it.
 

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Schedule updates for when you're in bed fool.
You fool I don't keep my PC on when I'm in freakin' bed and put my MSN status to Away :rolleyes: Electricity's damn expensive and the last thing I want while sleeping is the UPS making sharp loud beeps when the power goes out.

It's not "infinite TBs"....if you update regularly you might be looking at 20-50mb or so.
^ Epic fail. When I installed Windows 7 on a 11GB partition and installed some basic apps along with it, I only had 350MB of free space, but after a day or so it filled up almost 100% and only like 3.1MB of free space was lost. I think 297MB of data somehow magically entered my PC and filled it up.

Or wait...could it be? Could it possibly be that it was some stupid updates as the last time I shut down my PC I got a message saying "Please do not turn off your PC. Installing updates 1 of 23" :rolleyes:

These updates might come in handy with an OS like Win7 since its fairly new, but with something that's as refined as XP SP3 there's hardly a need for it IMO.

You also need to get out of this mentality that updates add functionality, because that's rarely the case.
When did I say they add functionality??? oO Provide quotes please....
 

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Umm, swap file?
Nope :p

1) Swap files would've been there when I had 300MB space too, so it doesn't make any difference.
2) I'd just booted into Windows, nothing was running. In fact, there must have been more page filing when I had 300MB free space and many FF tabs were open then when I just booted in.
 

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lol I just said there aren't any :p Just to be sure I clicked "Delete all restore points" and got an error saying "There are no system restore points"
 

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Doesn't work for the most part now. I can whip up a batch virus in a few minutes that deletes all restore points. Its quite common practice now for virus makers.

did you actually unhide hidden files, add your account to the system restore folders permissions list and look inside the folder.
Yup, there is only one administrator account with which everything's accessible.
 
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