[Millium]

Through the years I have owned quite a lot of consoles, and games for those consoles. Most of them however I have either lost, resold, or given away. Would it be illegal to download the ISO's/ROM's or the BIOS of those games/consoles I am certain that I owned at one point in time? Seeing as it is already legal to make a backup of the games, as well as to copy the BIOS, and since I owned everything at one point in time, wouldn't it be legal?

 

[cooliscool]

Yes, it would be illegal. Even if you still owned said consoles/games, it would be still be illegal to download copies of their contents. You have the right to make your own copies, not download others.

 

[Millium]

alright, thanks.

 

[Spyhop]

If you no longer have the game in your possession, yes, very illegal.

If you have the game in your possession then it's a gray area. I'm of the belief that if you already own a game, you own the intellectual usage rights and it doesn't matter if you download the exact same image, since you already own it. However, I've argued ad nauseum with this forum on this exact topic and I'd rather not re-open then discussion.

 

[Phil]

Im an outlier I guess. I have the need to play a game again, I will ussually buy a copy. Case in point: I bought Goldensun 3 times, once in 2001, once in 2003, and most currently 2006.

 

[Proto]

If you have the game in your possession then it's a gray area. I'm of the belief that if you already own a game, you own the intellectual usage rights and it doesn't matter if you download the exact same image, since you already own it. However, I've argued ad nauseum with this forum on this exact topic and I'd rather not re-open then discussion.

It is not a matter of it being a matter of personal opinion or not, but since you don't seem too eager to discuss I guess I'd rather not go there.

 

[Squall-Leonhart]

Sorry spyhop, look on the bottom of your cd and you will see a printed number.

If the disk you download does not have the same number as that, then you have no rights over the disk what so ever. (oh wait, the download doesn't have a number at all )

If however the game is cdkey protected, and you have a legit, or are given a legit key by a friend, who lost his cd so bought another... then well... the law can't say crap about that really...

 

[Spyhop]

Sorry spyhop, look on the bottom of your cd and you will see a printed number.

Right. The argument we got in, though, was over the fact the the information on the disc was serial number agnostic. ie. There's nothing unique about the data on your disc opposed to anyone else's.

We both dug out certain excerpts from copyright law. We didn't conclude anything. The argument fizzled because no one was budging.

 

[Squall-Leonhart]

Yeah, it'd be boring getting into that again, so lets just skip the bull**** and agree to disagree.

 

[Gossamer]

Do what you want just don't tell anyone here about it.
This avoids problems.

/thread.

 

[Phil]

Interverse, your words of wisdom have no peer

 

[Gossamer]

Interverse, your words of wisdom have no peer

All of nonexistant God's children said; Amen.

 

[Phil]

Are you taking communion in your pic?

Hypocrite