In a couple of discussions, people have talked about nature and how good it is to be natural, but have they thought it through?
In some species, the dominant males hump as many females as possible, and go through "heat" and cannot control themselves. They do not care about mating with animals in their own group/family, age of the females, and certainly not consent. So would we want a society where the strongest men were able to force women to have sex with them whenever they wanted?
Some animals kill their young, particularly if they are weak, would we want to kill our disabled people? or our old and weak?
The males of some species will often kill each other to determine the dominant male who will lead the group of animals, shall we do away with voting and just leave elections to a public bloodbath? That would make for interesting congressional / presidentual debates.
Some animals kill for sport, they'll torture other animals, eat other animals while they are alive, but is that a good idea for humans?
Seriously, just because nature allows animals to do whatever they want, is that a reason for humans to engage in any behavior they want? Is "animals do it" a reason to support these behaviors and others?
In some species, the dominant males hump as many females as possible, and go through "heat" and cannot control themselves. They do not care about mating with animals in their own group/family, age of the females, and certainly not consent. So would we want a society where the strongest men were able to force women to have sex with them whenever they wanted?
Some animals kill their young, particularly if they are weak, would we want to kill our disabled people? or our old and weak?
The males of some species will often kill each other to determine the dominant male who will lead the group of animals, shall we do away with voting and just leave elections to a public bloodbath? That would make for interesting congressional / presidentual debates.
Some animals kill for sport, they'll torture other animals, eat other animals while they are alive, but is that a good idea for humans?
Seriously, just because nature allows animals to do whatever they want, is that a reason for humans to engage in any behavior they want? Is "animals do it" a reason to support these behaviors and others?