[seiyass]

hey, im going to buy a computer, ... lets suppose i want it for playing
ps2 games, which one would you recommend me (average cheap-performance)?

is it true that there is no difference por ps2games, between a x4 Cpu, and a x2Cpu ?
is it true that a super Gpu (nvidia gtx 285) and a geforce 9400gt, wont make much diference for ps2 games?

thankx in advance

 

[ryu_joko]

buy the highest core2duo series with 9400gt. its enough. at the moment, pcsx2 doesn't support more than 2 cores

 

[Squall-Leonhart]

or get a i7 920 and overclock it to the stock 965 clocks.

 

[seiyass]

thanks alot!

 

[Princess Garnet]

or get a i7 920 and overclock it to the stock 965 clocks.

If this is for PCSX2 only we're talking about, that's a very bad idea. Not that it'd perform terribly, but a Core 2 system would perform just as well (better in this case actually, if overclocked higher than the stock Core i7 965), for much less money.

Core 2 Duo [email protected]+/1GB+ of RAM/GeForce 9600GT or higher (make sure it's nVidia if paired with a dual core for PCSX2) is the best price for performance for PCSX2. Other stuff performs better, yeah, but not by much, and costs much more.

Of course, we're scarce on Core i7 results for PCSX2. The only thing I saw showed it trading blows with a Core 2 Duo (where the Core i7 was faster in menus, and the Core 2 was mostly faster where it mattered). Still, telling someone to get a Core i7 920 and overclock it "only" to Core i7 965 speeds, when it'll need DDR3 RAM and an X58 motherboard, when you can get a 4GHz Core 2 that perform better and for cheaper, well, if it's for PCSX2 only, that's bad advice.

 

[Squall-Leonhart]

That comparison was based on an older version, its been fixed since according to Trigun. the i7 has nearly twice as fast cache ops, which matters to pcsx2's performance.

Infact, the i7 with HT disabled is pulling 60FPS in GSDX software mode.

 

[dig314]

I would love to see some PCSX2 benchmarks comparing Core 2 DUO to an i7.

Are there any on the message boards?

I am not talking about regular benchmarks - strictly PCSX2.

Dig

 

[PCXL-Fan]

Depending on the game and what resolution you want to play at you might want a more powerful card then a 9600gt.

FF12 (at times) and Grand Turismo 4 can be particularily gpu intensive and a 9600gt wouldn't be able to handle them at 1680x1050 or 1920x1080.

Since you probably will be playing pc games as well, i wouldn't go for the lower end of the gaming videocard spectrum. Spend the extra $50.

That comparison was based on an older version, its been fixed since according to Trigun. the i7 has nearly twice as fast cache ops, which matters to pcsx2's performance.

Infact, the i7 with HT disabled is pulling 60FPS in GSDX software mode.

Indeed using 6 threads for gsdx in native res software mode people have been now experiencing the ability to run games many games such as (iirc) metal gear solid 3 perfectly at full speed.

 

[Princess Garnet]

Yeah, let's see some benchmarks across a wide variety of plug-ins, setting, and games, at the same clock speed. I'm interested in the potential myself, but until we see results, nothing's a given, and the one we have seen showed them trading blows (Core i7 was faster in menus, and Core 2 was faster in-game). They were at the same clock speed, but something runawayprisoner once mentioned about them automatically overclocking under load could mean the results would be skewed, since the Core i7 would really be running at a faster clock speed. If possible, that feature would need to be disabled for accurate comparisons.

 

[Phil]

The Core 2 setup is the way to go. PCSX2 fullspeed for $600

 

[Squall-Leonhart]

Yeah, let's see some benchmarks across a wide variety of plug-ins, setting, and games, at the same clock speed. I'm interested in the potential myself, but until we see results, nothing's a given, and the one we have seen showed them trading blows (Core i7 was faster in menus, and Core 2 was faster in-game). They were at the same clock speed, but something runawayprisoner once mentioned about them automatically overclocking under load could mean the results would be skewed, since the Core i7 would really be running at a faster clock speed. If possible, that feature would need to be disabled for accurate comparisons.

disable Turbo and Onecore

 

[seiyass]

what do u think goes better for pcsx2? (with out overclock)


(amd 7750BE + geforce 9.8.0.0 gt)
or
(intel E7400 + geforce 9.6.0.0 gt) just +10$ difference

 

[Princess Garnet]

You're really going to want to overclock for best results, but for PCSX2, the latter is better (with or without).

 

[bkwegoharder]

Or you could get a Phenom X4 for the same price of an intel dual core, then overclock it. Much more bang for your buck, and just about the same performance as long as you have good enough overclocks.

 

[Phil]

No Phenom can clock like a Dou, And a old Q6600 will smoke a Phenom, no need to go to the faster yorkfield

 

[dig314]

I am really interested in all the information that has been shared in this thread.

However, I would love to see some benchmarks...
Pick a few core games that show up on the message board constantly - like FFX. The hard part would be testing the same scene from each game across multiple PCs with the SAME settings.

Is it against the rules to post Saved States? If not, using saved states would at least ensure the same scene is being used.

Dig

 

[Phil]

Try that with a Phenom

 

[bkwegoharder]

I mean a Phenom 2. Those were very good cpus.


they overclock well, they just don't overclock as well as the intel duo cores, but they are about the same price and the phenom has 2 extra cores to work with for other things.

 

[Phil]

Youre serious? Please

Deneb is nothing to shout about really. Intel simply rules the x86, no question about it.

 

[bkwegoharder]

AnandTech: AMD Phenom II X4 940 & 920: A True Return to Competition

The Phenom 940 are comparable to the core 2 quads, and they are a lot cheaper