ArchIBaLD said:
well.. let me just say that we dont kill for nothing (althoght there are exceptions, i admit). there are operations that take place in gaza. its not sloghter. all targets are activists of the Hamas and others. thousands dont die. you may say that the media lies to us but same number reports are given from arabian station. and the numbers dont add up to thousands!
From an article dated a year ago
In 33 months of Middle East violence, 2,414 people have been killed on the Palestinian side and 806 on the Israeli side.
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Palastenians estimate the figures to be around :
The total number of Palestinians killed by the Israeli army in the past 19 months is estimated to be 1,700 at least – it is impossible to be certain. The numbers of injured are reckoned to be at 34,000.
All targets are terrorists huh? I mean, the isreali army never killed anyone innocent before, I am sure
The dead palastenian children agree with you.
ArchIBald said:
And Ally.. with all do respect if you dont know the hestory of the rigion then dont say things you dont know. arabian bands started the blodshed in the mid 30's and was blocked by the jews that have lived here. side note: the jews hired the arabians and there was an understanding between them (all of them because vertually all arabians across palastin were hired by jews). and why did the jews have permition to live here? the otomanian empire has allowed it. the arabians that lived there were mearly a bunch of wonderrers. and the jews were declared sitizen. so in 1948 when the world recognized israel as a contry they started the war. not us.
Wrong. I am fully aware of the history of the reigon. This is NOT a jewish vs muslim conflict, This is a conflict over land and revenge. Jews have been living side by side with muslims before the britsh invasion as you stated, there are even jewish arabs who live in Syria, Eygpt and Iraq till today. The bloodshed started when Britain decided to give the land to the Zionist jews in Europe, who came in and kicked the palastenians from their own homes and commited the worse crimes in the history of that conflict ( during 1948). Until today, those refugees belong to no where, scattered in the lands of Eygpt, Jordan and Lebanon, without an Identity,or the right to return back to their native lands.
Major wars broke up several times between the arabs and israel in years 1948,1967,and 1971, ending up with a peace treaty with eygpt ( with eventually lead to the assisnation of the Egyptian president Anwar Al Sadat by an extremist movement in the begining 1980's), a war in Lebanon and an outbreak between the palastenians and israel.
ArchiBLad said:
edit: by the way. the fact that the army only killes hamas activists makes me so sad that i have no choise by saying that. beleave me that i would have made this pease of ground flat. all the world may not recognize it, but this is war!
No they don't. They DO kill innocents as well. They even arrest/kill/destroy the house of a suicider's relatives even if they had nothing to do with what he did.
And as a side note, No I am not from Al Queda

I fully sympathise with the israeli victims who are killed from time to time just like how I fell sorry for the palastenians who are killed without a reason too. But it REALLY iritates me to see one side of the conflict trying to make the other look "evul" while he being the "innocent lamb" ( Yes, that includes palastenians themselves).
edit : /me bookmarks this thread,...people actually agree with me, ( including,...yikes! .....Boltzmann !

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Yours,
-Elly