The CPU Thread...er...thread
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Dude thanks for sharing your experiences, other youtube channels can be pretty coy or esoteric with how they get set up, but I am so excited for PS3 emulation on ryzen...or threadripper.
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This reminds me, if you haven't tried the Ryzen Dram Calculator, it's worth looking into. The 'Safe' and 'Fast' preset both give a nice performance boost and should in theory (no guarantee) be good for most people. Extreme can be overkill and a big risk.
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The 3990x reviews are out and this chip is...fucking hell it's a monster.
GamersNexus had LN cooling pulling 4.9ghz all cores at 1100w, considering Intel's 28 core was pulling 1500w that is a brutal move by AMD. Chiplet design is good. 64 cores are good if you can use them.
If you or your workplace can leverage 64 cores this chip is a phenomenal investment opportunity. Having half the pcie lanes and 1/4 the ram capacity of the EPYC chip may not be so bad when you're running your algorithms or renders and watching them get smoked.
For animation studios, this thing will pay itself off so quickly.
GamersNexus had LN cooling pulling 4.9ghz all cores at 1100w, considering Intel's 28 core was pulling 1500w that is a brutal move by AMD. Chiplet design is good. 64 cores are good if you can use them.
If you or your workplace can leverage 64 cores this chip is a phenomenal investment opportunity. Having half the pcie lanes and 1/4 the ram capacity of the EPYC chip may not be so bad when you're running your algorithms or renders and watching them get smoked.
For animation studios, this thing will pay itself off so quickly.
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For animation and production work is fine. For emulation due AMD constantly removing or changing some instruction sets, maybe royalties are tied to them, gives poorer performance unless optimised specifically. I think it was Dolphin progress update said AMD Zen has instruction set relating to accessing memory optimally and had to use an alternative instruction set specifically for it as it will be dog slow without it and the alternate is better but makes it worse than Intel equivalent... So now the dev has to manually add code to detect processor and give different code, how many emu devs will do that..
Hence why I am sticking with Intel for emulation and gaming, everything works out of the box, go with AMD cpu and video cards if you want to wait updates for support, that is if an update is provided or supported by dev.
Benchmarks numbers are nothing for gaming without real word FPS and actual emulators tested on competing processors.
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i5 2500k is a decent performer with AVX, as i remember some folks were buying pentiums w/o AVX for emu stuff and they managed. Perhaps you would have to reschedule some of the demanding games for a later time, but zen3 is rumored to bring very nice floating point performance improvements.
If you MB/system breaks down, that's another story, but cpu's like 3700X will also get cheaper. The benefits of waiting are quite strong since we are talking (late) 2020. Late 2021 would be another story, for sure.
If you MB/system breaks down, that's another story, but cpu's like 3700X will also get cheaper. The benefits of waiting are quite strong since we are talking (late) 2020. Late 2021 would be another story, for sure.
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The 3600 would be a nice upgrade, but I would personally also recommend waiting for the new ones if possible. I think you'd see a more noticeable bump if using games or apps using fewer cores.
The benefit of going with something current instead of waiting would be the ability to see more reviews/more feedback on the currently available motherboards. People have had time to play around with current gear, so you can make a more informed decision.
The benefit of going with something current instead of waiting would be the ability to see more reviews/more feedback on the currently available motherboards. People have had time to play around with current gear, so you can make a more informed decision.
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I don't see anything close to "performance". I hope you have had a process (Chrome?) or something that justifies those numbers.
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Yeah, my 11 years old CPU is crap right now. Even when it was new it was inferior for the simple fact of not supporting the SSSE3 instruction set. And poor latency management in DDR3.
I was just showing how my now archaic processor can't play the Jellyfish's highest bitrate video without dropping frames and how a simple RX 560 can do the job with VAAPI. That's all.
By "I don't see anything close to performance" and "those numbers" I meant the use of GPU and RAM. But I guess it's "normal" usage on any Windows 10 other than LTSB / LTSC. Or the normal usage of Chrome, I don't know.
I was just showing how my now archaic processor can't play the Jellyfish's highest bitrate video without dropping frames and how a simple RX 560 can do the job with VAAPI. That's all.
By "I don't see anything close to performance" and "those numbers" I meant the use of GPU and RAM. But I guess it's "normal" usage on any Windows 10 other than LTSB / LTSC. Or the normal usage of Chrome, I don't know.
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I know what you mean. I also own an Phenom II x4 backup system, it's a bit held back by the mobo igpu, but the SSD did wonders. Decent YT, FB, Web, Office etc. performance.
Optimized emulators (ePSXe, PPSSPP...) or 2D emulators would also perform good enough.
Actually i wanted to mention a very a curious situation.
When zen2 cpu's launched, their PassMark single thread score was rated very high, up to 3000 points.
As i checked last time, the zen2 results were lower by a significant ammount, like form 2350 to 2600 points.
The R7 2700x scores 2284 for example.
Good news is the actual performance wasn't gimped.
CB single threaded score show better performance gains though.
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Also SYSMark, for example. Guess it's a combined score and the r5 3600 performs rather good.
About the increased resource usage: the gpu usage looks suspicious also.
Optimized emulators (ePSXe, PPSSPP...) or 2D emulators would also perform good enough.
Actually i wanted to mention a very a curious situation.
When zen2 cpu's launched, their PassMark single thread score was rated very high, up to 3000 points.
As i checked last time, the zen2 results were lower by a significant ammount, like form 2350 to 2600 points.
The R7 2700x scores 2284 for example.
PassMark CPU Benchmarks - Single Thread Performance
Benchmarks of the single thread performance of CPUs. This chart comparing CPUs single thread performance is made using thousands of PerformanceTest benchmark results and is updated daily.
www.cpubenchmark.net
Good news is the actual performance wasn't gimped.
CB single threaded score show better performance gains though.
Also SYSMark, for example. Guess it's a combined score and the r5 3600 performs rather good.
About the increased resource usage: the gpu usage looks suspicious also.
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I have offically gone from an i5 3570k to a Ryzen 7 3700X Which is on its way since I ordered yesterday. This will be a HUGE boost in Streaming and NOT so much gaming for me as my i5 still handles [email protected] like a champ but buckles under streaming loads of newer games.
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I've been wanting to tinker with my X99A machine for a while and found myself ordering an Intel 1660 V4 engineering sample, a xeon chip that has an unlocked multiplier unlike it's production units.
I'm looking forward to using those two extra cores, I could have spent a fortune on a new Ryzen system, but with prices soaring and new chips coming later this year, and with DDR5 coming 2021 I think I'm going to hold out for another year (I'm not really CPU bottlenecked on my software yet) and build something completely from scratch.
Until then, I'll be messing around with broadwell-EP even longer.
I'm looking forward to using those two extra cores, I could have spent a fortune on a new Ryzen system, but with prices soaring and new chips coming later this year, and with DDR5 coming 2021 I think I'm going to hold out for another year (I'm not really CPU bottlenecked on my software yet) and build something completely from scratch.
Until then, I'll be messing around with broadwell-EP even longer.
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