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The cause of all of society's problems summed up in one article

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AKA, the Monkey Sphere.

http://www.pointlesswasteoftime.com/monkeysphere.html

This is actually pretty insightful... for a comedy article that is.
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That was awesome! it was totaly true!
thanks for posting the link
It speaks of nothing insightful that I hadn't thought about before. It also attempts to insult me once or twice in a seemingly humoristically fashion, which my own rationalizations are so blissfully absent of. Despite it being a comedy article, it's acting smart, but leaves a contrary impression on me.

What interests me more on those 2 pages, is a Stalin quote with '50 Cent' smacked under it on top of the first page. oO
Well, I think "the Monkey Sphere" is something we're all aware of on some level, concious or unconcious. It doesn't suprise me that you didn't find that to be new information. One thing it did do for me though, is make me realize that this issue is actually at the heart of a lot of the problems society faces. More so that I had ever suspected, before I took the time to think about it.

And by the way, what did you find insulting about the article anyway? I hope it's not the fact that it compares humans to monkeys, because this article is definately not the first place that has been done.

I can't say much about the 50 Cent quote though. 50 Cent probably did say it, and this guy just didn't realize he was quoting someone else at the time.
__Xzyx987X said:
Well, I think "the Monkey Sphere" is something we're all aware of on some level, concious or unconcious. It doesn't suprise me that you didn't find that to be new information. One thing it did do for me though, is make me realize that this issue is actually at the heart of a lot of the problems society faces. More so that I had ever suspected, before I took the time to think about it.
I see. I have taken great time to reflect on my apathy for people I don't know personally, and I'm quite bit more devoted into self-awareness than most people seem to be, which explains my reaction. I relate my findings on my self to every other human being, and vice versa, to some extent.

__Xzyx987X said:
And by the way, what did you find insulting about the article anyway? I hope it's not the fact that it compares humans to monkeys, because this article is definately not the first place that has been done.
Ofcourse not. :D They can do that all they'd like, for all I'd care. The tone (hence: "seemingly humoristically fashion") was making the read less of a bore, but also thought to predict what I was thinking on the subject on a few cases that were just plain wrong, and I thought of as demeaning. There was a manner to it that makes the article leave a different impression on me than it probably was aiming for.

It's nothing. :p I tend to analyze into anything thrown at me.

__Xzyx987X said:
I can't say much about the 50 Cent quote though. 50 Cent probably did say it, and this guy just didn't realize he was quoting someone else at the time.
In which case the guy of the article chose 50 Cent for a quote he did not originally make. It seems ignorant to me, but perhaps they knew and it was part of their humor. :lol:
intresting, so it's saying we only care about people we remember and place in our "group", how true
Atributing a Stallin quote to 50 cent was bad :p

As Gaurav said, it's nothing new to me, either. In fact, evolutionary psychology can explain it easily.

It's all part of the human tribal instinct, where we tend to demonize those outside our tribes and regard them as "not humans". But humans didn't evolve to be part of a global tribe. We evolved as part of tribes with a few hundred individuals at best. That's why we really cannot relate to people starving in Africa, for instance.

Give us a 10 or 20 thousand years and we might evolve into something better. But I'd rather accelerate things using technology.

Tooby and Cosmides wrote something about it to non-specialists in a very good article called Knowing Thyself: The Evolutionary Psychology of Moral Reasoning and Moral Sentiments.

But I'd say that self-deception is a big part of mankind's problems as well. Not just tribalism.
I wonder what they'd say about people who hate everyone.
Talbain said:
I wonder what they'd say about people who hate everyone.
Sociopaths.

Evolutionary theory also says that we should expect a small amount of them.
And perhaps everyone is also a bit sociopathic? This article makes it seem so.
No, we're all humans (which is already bad enough). Sociopaths are a particularly bad kind of humans (and too many of them are in positions of power).
To qualify anyone as good or bad with no regard to them as a human no longer makes them human, I believe.
We're all humans, even the sociopaths. Charles Manson was a sociopath, but he was a human. Human is what you're, it's that which is in your DNA. We all belong to the same race.
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