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Would any emulators be able to play Panzer Dragoon Saga at close to full speed on a
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State of Sega Saturn emulation?
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be back later with some information on that question....
Going to do some testing.
Going to do some testing.
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Sadly the state of Saturn emulation is poor.
Most of the English Saturn emulators can barely run the games and the only emualtor that can run games is not in English.
I baffled to why it's taking so long -- almost 10 years-- to develop a decent Saturn emulator.
Most of the English Saturn emulators can barely run the games and the only emualtor that can run games is not in English.
I baffled to why it's taking so long -- almost 10 years-- to develop a decent Saturn emulator.
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Poor? No way, it's amazing. SSF, although requires a CPU with SSE2, has incredible compatibility, speed, and supports sound quite well. If you're implying it's only in Japanese, no.. by default it's in english, actually. Its website is in Japanese, but it's not necessary. Shima is really working his ass off to bring this to us.. I really respect the guy.
Satourne is also very promising these days, as well.
Satourne is also very promising these days, as well.
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I think SSF is killer. I got to play Clockwork Knight for the first time in 10 years, and found I was still able to beat it. I'd say the Saturn emulation scene is getting very good lately.
I'd say the Saturn emulation scene is getting very good lately.
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I was referring to girigiri as the most developed emulator.cooliscool said:Poor? No way, it's amazing. SSF, although requires a CPU with SSE2, has incredible compatibility, speed, and supports sound quite well. If you're implying it's only in Japanese, no.. by default it's in english, actually. Its website is in Japanese, but it's not necessary. Shima is really working his ass off to bring this to us.. I really respect the guy.
Satourne is also very promising these days, as well.
Last time I tried SSF it couldn't even run Radiant Silvergun.
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Um.. the last time you could even try SSF was many versions ago. Now Shima recoded his SH2 compiler with SSE2 instructions, and thus, it requires a P4 (or P4 Celeron) or an Athlon64 to even open. It's no contest, SSF is the best Saturn emulator currently, no argument necessary. Regardless, you can't expect Saturn emulation to be nearly enjoyable with a P3 733.
Yeah, and Radiant Silvergun is flawless.
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Yeah, and Radiant Silvergun is flawless.
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And it's completely fullspeed, no issues whatsoever? I doubt it.
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For P3 it's half the speed the game should be running at.cooliscool said:
But I had the chance to test girigiri with Radiant Silvergun on a P4 and the game runs flawlessly.
As you stated cooliscool, SSF doesn't run on a P3 so girigri is the best Saturn emulator to load up Saturn games on older machines.
Eventhough SSF does not yet emulate the same amount of games as Girigiri, however what SSF does emulate it emulates better than Girigiri.
Personally, I can't wait till SSF emulates Panzer Dragoon Saga. It's nice that Girigiri curently runs it, however girigiri doesn't do the game justice.
Personally, I can't wait till SSF emulates Panzer Dragoon Saga. It's nice that Girigiri curently runs it, however girigiri doesn't do the game justice.
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Emm... SSF already runs Panzer Dragoon Saga. It even runs a lot of games that do not run or have serious problems on Giri giri (ie: Sonic 3d, Sonic R, Virtual On, Thunderforce V, etc.)
However, Giri giri is indeed the best choice for people with slower CPUs or CPUs that don't have SSE2 support but I sense that this is going to change when the next version of Satourne will be released...
However, Giri giri is indeed the best choice for people with slower CPUs or CPUs that don't have SSE2 support but I sense that this is going to change when the next version of Satourne will be released...
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Are Athlon XPs SSE2?
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No. They are capable of SSE, not SSE2. Athlon64 added SSE2 instructions.
Intel debuted the technology with P4, so all P4s are capable of it.
Intel debuted the technology with P4, so all P4s are capable of it.
I must've confused it with Soukyugurentai, Radiant Silvergun indeed runs on Girigiri-gav.
Well, it runs at 40 fps on my Athlon XP 3100+, the backgrounds are updated with insanely heavy framedropping (and generally out of sync), many transparent backgrounds do not show up properly, and the music sounds like morse code on a NES, but it runs.
By the way, some Athlon XPs do have SSE2. The ones which are built on the Athlon64 core, but missing the 64bit extensions, sometimes have SSE2 enabled because of an error. Note that the core is fully capable of SSE2, as it is a Athlon64. The bastards just disable it for whatever reason.
Well, it runs at 40 fps on my Athlon XP 3100+, the backgrounds are updated with insanely heavy framedropping (and generally out of sync), many transparent backgrounds do not show up properly, and the music sounds like morse code on a NES, but it runs.
By the way, some Athlon XPs do have SSE2. The ones which are built on the Athlon64 core, but missing the 64bit extensions, sometimes have SSE2 enabled because of an error. Note that the core is fully capable of SSE2, as it is a Athlon64. The bastards just disable it for whatever reason.
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There's no AXP built on the A64 base. You may mean Socket 754 Semprons, which do, and are supposed to. Not to mention they are now 64-bit parts, code BX.
There are no Athlon XPs with SSE2 support.
There are no Athlon XPs with SSE2 support.
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