Sims 2 next for AO rating?

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RZetlin

Discussion Starter · Jul 22, 2005

Miami attorney claims cheat codes and patches makes EA's life sim "worse than the GTA scandal" and a pedophile's paradise; calls for ban on T-rated game.

It's not just the adults that are liberated from their wardrobe. Sims kids can also be nudified, "much to the delight, one can be sure, of pedophiles around the globe who can rehearse, in virtual reality, for their abuse."

Thompson doesn't buy it. "The sex and the nudity are in the game. That's the point. The blur is an admission that even the 'Ken and Barbie' features should not be displayed. The blur can be disarmed. This is no different than what is in San Andreas, although worse."

Gamespot

If people are upset that the clothes can be removed due to digital modification wouldn't that apply to movies as well.

If went and digitally removed the clothes in Star Wars or Charlie and the Chocolate Factory wouldn't it be the same thing?

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Mako Eyes

· #2 · Jul 22, 2005

RZetlin said:
If people are upset that the clothes can be removed due to digital modification wouldn't that apply to movies as well.

If went and digitally removed the clothes in Star Wars or Charlie and the Chocolate Factory wouldn't it be the same thing?

Well, that's the thing. Movies aren't "bad" and "they don't influence the viewers to do stuff." Well, not sure if those moron anti-videogame activists come right out and say that, but they do a damn good job of implying that mentality.

ANY game can be hacked/patched/cracked/whatever to do that kind of stuff. Hell, even the sprites in Pong or Tetris can be edited to look like penises or breasts or something. Why not give every game on the market an AO rating?

If you ask me, the air is thick with the stench of hypocrisy.

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ChankastRules

· #3 · Jul 22, 2005

The rules are, if sexual content is included in the game by the developers, which was the case of San Andreas, than it's the developers fault, ofcourse they can't help if someone hacks the game and make textures that removes the clothes of the characters.

I think the sims had a nude patch that was just unlocked though, not created by hackers

Here's the million $ question though, a movie with two naked human people have sex, it's rated 15 in the cinema ( yes there are many examples of this ).

But if there's a little pixelated nudity in video games it's immediatly rated 18+ , does anyone else find that strange?

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Vanit

· #4 · Jul 22, 2005

This doesn't make sense... how does make it adult only keep it away from pedophiles? From what I can see on the news most of them are 40 year old men...

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Dark Watcher

· #5 · Jul 22, 2005

It's not so much to keep the game away from pedophiles (Although we are sure this will give pedophiles ideas now...dumbarses

). It is that Sims 2 has a Teen rating.

All this crap is just pointless...It is just an excuse for politicians to get some media time, and to make it seem like they are doing their jobs...when they don't really do ****

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Nevermore

· #6 · Jul 22, 2005

not only does that gives the politicians some media time to make them feel important but thats nothing more than a lame publicity attempt, well for me it is.I can already hear some guys saying: ZOMG! Teh game gonna be banned! Buy it quick plzkthnx or omfgwtfbbq nudity "leaks" I want!

Thats just ridiculous, theres been like a thousand games involving nudity but I bet I can beat up my wife in Fable.. anyway this is getting on my nerves.. not that I care anyway if it gets AO or M ratings, I still want to get some aggressivity off my back.

Fatality.

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Mako Eyes

· #7 · Jul 22, 2005

Nevermore said:
Thats just ridiculous, theres been like a thousand games involving nudity but I bet I can beat up my wife in Fable..

Haha, can't you marry a man in Fable too? Don't let them hear that one, whatever you do. :lol:

Heh, let's not forget the pioneer (if you will call it that) of all of this nonsense: Custer's Revenge. But that game deserved the crap it took for all I'm concerned because, well, it downright sucked.

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Vanit

· #8 · Jul 23, 2005

I'm surprised that MMORPGs have yet to recieve an adult only rating. There is no doubt I've seen the worst stuff online when dirty guys log in. Warcraft 3's bnet is filled to the brim with discusting freaks and I only continue to play only because I really like the game... but I wouldn't let my brother play it online. I'm even concerned about him playing runescape now... the stuff I've seen people say and act out in runescape is worse than anythin in Sims 2 or GTA San Andreas.

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Player-X

· #9 · Jul 23, 2005 (Edited)

Jack Thompson is the worst closed minded person I know of, even though most of us would take what he says seriously but most of the conservertives do, If he could he would give even clectronic chess a AO rating if not ban it entirely
I will take this interview as an example
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/02/24/tech/gamecore/main676446.shtml

Does age or sex play a factor in violent, aggressive behavior?

Sure, the sex and violence centers of the brain overlay one another, which is why the increasing mix of sex and violence is troubling. Armies have been known to go on rape rampages after battles because the violence stimulates sexual aggression. How lovely that GTA weds sex and violence in the same game. We are training a generation of teens to combine sex with violence, just what America needs.

He claimed in a indirect way that the likes of Ghengis Khan's army played video games hundreds of years before they are invented

Is there a correlation between playing violent video games and acting in a violent manner?

Of course. Every parent who is paying attention knows that it is garbage in, garbage out with kids.

The heads of six major health care organizations testified before Congress that there are "hundreds" of studies that prove the link. All the video game industry has are studies paid for by them, which are geared to find the opposite result. Lawyers call such experts "whores."

he called some researchers who's rescearch yelds results that don't agree with him bad names

Do you think the interactivity of game violence makes it different than violence on television, which is passive?

Of course, as you actually grow neural pathways called dendrites that enable you to perform more easily the physical acts of violence. Plus, from a psychological perspective, to act out of virtual violence in a virtual setting is far more damaging than just viewing it. You enter into the violence, you become the protagonist.

He claims that dendrites causes violence indicating that he has a lack of brain cells

Are parents paying attention to what their kids play?

Nope.

The only part where he is right

Nuff' said

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Strider

· #10 · Jul 23, 2005

All this crap is just pointless...It is just an excuse for politicians to get some media time, and to make it seem like they are doing their jobs...when they don't really do ****

heh, we usually dont share the same sentiments on things but i gotta agree completely right there

man... that jack thompson guy is such an idiot though, i'd want to slap the **** out of his mouth, break his spine, and literally reposition him so that he can go and fu** himself... who says video games encourage violence? its idiots like him that do

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Mako Eyes

· #11 · Jul 23, 2005

Jack Thompson is a downright frikking moron. Not only is he one of those idiots that claim video games are major encouragements for violence, but he also has absolutely NO evidence to back up his claim and all of his arguments are completely asinine. Not to mention he's a total ass, just check this out. He must have some sort of superiority complex or something.

Ugh, if there's one thing I hate, it's Jack Thompson . . . him and VIA.

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Vanit

· #12 · Jul 24, 2005

Somehow I think that email exchange is fake... either that or he is a complete idiot. If you don't want people bugging you by email you simply don't reply... why would you email back saying to go away XD.

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Player-X

· #13 · Jul 24, 2005

That is real, he seems to tell me to as I quote: "**** off" that to one of my emails asking about his opinion on games designed to help educate students made by one of the text book publishers here, after which I proceeded to subscribe him to alot of viagra and "enlargement" spam as well as various gaming news letters

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FLaRe85

· #14 · Jul 24, 2005

Mako Eyes said:
Haha, can't you marry a man in Fable too? Don't let them hear that one, whatever you do. :lol:

I'm sure if you were to modify the game, you could. Though, by default, certain men only become attracted to you. You can't actually engage in sex with them or marry them like you can the women.

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Player-X

· #15 · Jul 24, 2005

Good read
http://www.tomshardware.com/game/200507231/index.html

In that ruling if stick a person's head on a porn scene with photoshop the person becomes an instant porn star, or if you somehow stick a F1 engine into a Ford ModelT all model Ts are race cars nomatter the engine

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Vanit

· #16 · Jul 24, 2005

Nobody actually gets hurt as I hurtle down side streets in a stolen ambulance, tossing gangsters and grannies alike into the air with my front fender in GTA.

I had to laugh out loud at that.

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