[Ash_Clarke]

Hi. I have a question: Do any of you think it might be possible to (in the future) make pscx bootable before windows loads? this is probably really dumb. (w8s 4 flaming from CKEMU :lol: ) I just thought wouldn't it be so great to free up all those resources and have them dedicated to PCSX 2? oO
Oh dear, i'm really setting myself up here for a microwavin here no? :microwave

P.s. when is the next ver.... :joke

Hope you all don't knock my idea over then beat it to death with a stick.
lol j/k

-- Ash

 

[dermeister]

Oh god...

 

[bositman]

Ok from people that think their suggestions are smart and l33t i understand,but since you know its a stupid suggestion why do you do it?? :???: :hdbash:

 

[KanedA]

I think it's human nature to do so...

nice avator Ash

 

[Ash_Clarke]

why do you do it??

Because firstly, i tthought it might possibly be slightly plausible. I can understand the 'oh god's etc. but i just wondered. I admit i don't know much about programming or emulation. That's why when i asked it, i thought it would be a dumb question. If nobody asked the questions, then you'd have nobody to laugh at. oh yeah and it might save other people asking and lookin like a n00b.
Cheers Anyway

-- Ash

 

[CKemu]

FEAR ME!!!! :evil:

Actually the resources consumed by windows are negligable. Also not only would pcsx2 need to create a virtual OS, it'd need to have drivers and support for everyones equipment, so in the end you'd be back to using windows, and DOS mode is out of the question as DOS is 16bit.

 

[Ash_Clarke]

FEAR ME!!!!

-- Oh we do.

in the end you'd be back to using windows, DOS mode is out of the question as DOS is 16bit.

-- Yeah i see what you mean. the reason i thought of it, was because of the way a PS2 boots up (if it does). I'm guessin PS2's don't boot up an OS, so what do they do?

DOS mode is out of the question as DOS is 16bit.

-- Yeah i saw the DOS suggestion thread. :lol:

 

[ChankastRules]

There's a linux build ( you can make linux boot with very few other programs if you're so concerned with it, but like CK said it doesn't really make much of a difference, there's also a high priority mode in windows XP which reduces calls made by the system to an absolute minimum

@CK Dos acctually have a 32-bit extended mode which some games ran in, before DOS became obsolete , the idea is stupid for so many other reasons though so it doesn't really matter of course

 

[CKemu]

It's not so much that PS2 doesn't have an OS per-say, its the completely different architecture, the completely different methods of handling data. the fact we all use ancient X86 tech, and the PS2 uses MIPS, has various different cpus, the PS2 is a data bandwidth giant...the list is endless, and the best method of emulating it is to have all the hardware / driver support windows offers, and writting a program to convert one set of data into data we can use on a PC.

Trust me, the 'best' method of emulating the PS2 is being used atm, and use of threaded processes (not specifically Intels HT tech, as that won't offer much of a speed up), 64bit, SSE2 (and perhaps oneday SSE3) will all help. But frankly the only way to really get past the speed issue, is to get faster and faster systems.

 

[cooliscool]

The thing about HT is that it's not its own technology, per se.. simply 1 physical and one logical CPU.. anything you do to make dual processing a reality will also apply to HT, as it is looked at as 2 CPUs. Multithreading PCSX2 would give both dual CPUs and HT capable CPUs a significant speedup. Modern processors only being able to process one thread at a time (looking at you, Athlon 64 single core), vs 2 (albeit thread 2 being processed slower) would make a huge difference.

SSE2 vs SSE3.. using SSE3 over SSE2 won't bring much gain. The instructions set offered by SSE2 is quite large as it is, and SSE3 only adds about 30 or so to it.

 

[Ash_Clarke]

But frankly the only way to really get past the speed issue, is to get faster and faster systems.

-- you mean like your athlon 32000+??

Cheers for explaining all about the details all.

-- Ash

 

[RF]

If you are really concerned about resource usage you can do a selective startup.

Start -> Run -> msconfig -> General -> Selective Startup -> Uncheck Load Startup Items - > Restart your machine

 

[TWave]

Really, don't post stupid things before thinking them twice. :lol:

1. Windows doesn't eat speed to the emu. Only 2%. So a new OS don't make anything. And windows has a lot of thing that improbe the speed (DX9, Standar plugings for all cards, etc.)

2. PS2 doesn't have an OS. Is like a calculator, you enter data and it process it. Nothing more.

3. And MS-DOS ISN'T the PCXS2 emu code. Don't know were have you get this......

So, before asking something think a littel please. I was a noob 1 year ago. But I didn't say these things. I used the search tool to inform myself before asking. Do the same.

P.S: The emu will be at full speed soon. But first wait until it is finnished (1.x ver)

 

[KiNOBauDAI_]

I think that TWave is almost right, my post-count would may anyone think that i'm a newbie but i don't think so, i don't post cause i don't want to, about the search function he's right, being a newbie isn't a reason to don't read the threads, readme, rules, etc. and even if you don't believe it, search function helps a lot, and about the speed, i think that that's not true, not that i'm blaming the coders but just as they say the emu isn't going to be complete in a long time, and as everyone in the forum should know they are first focusing in compatibility, not speed.

 

[Vanit]

P.S: The emu will be at full speed soon. But first wait until it is finnished (1.x ver)

Who knows? We could be playing it on our laptops as we fly to Mars .

 

[Xymet]

we saw a post like this earlier, about trying to fill up the operating system usage space to 0 and emulator to a 100%.

But you know you can always refer to it to get all these questions and answers rolled up i think....

Hi I Have An Idea About PCSX2 >>>
http://www.ngemu.com/forums/showthread.php?t=63966

and also

In My Opinion >>>

http://www.ngemu.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62613

I guess you get the same questions and answers here, reframed abit

 

[Cloud Strife 7]

And MS-DOS ISN'T the PCXS2 emu code. Don't know were have you get this......

Actually, he didn`t say this. You still have memories of the old thread.
In my oppinion, it`s okay to have some (note: "some", and not simply "newbs") newbs to lighten up the forum a bit, as long as they don`t ask the same questions over and over (like that OS thing been said 10 times in a week).
As long as they ask politely and not be stuborn and say "no,no,no! it`s YOU who doesn`t understand", then it`s okay, as somenone can learn more things about asking stupid questions (eg: I learned things I didn`t knew about dos in the old thread).
Anyway, there are curently 2 methods of boostering the speed: improve you machine (the athlon X2 32000+ with 64 bits sounds great ) or improving the code. I vote for improving the code.

 

[Ash_Clarke]

Finishing off

Er.... hello people. Please keep your hair on. I had already had everything explained to me on post number 9! and actually i have read through the forums thx. i have read every post on every thread (not that i'll remember exactly every single one but hey).

"If you ask a question, you may look like a fool for a while before it blows over. If you don't ask that question, you may look like a fool for a lifetime"

i'm sorry if i missed something that had already been said "10 times b4". so there hmmmph! :innocent:

p.s. no harsh feelings right

And on a final note:

As this thread has kinda finished up, am i alright to ask a second question that shudn't be as dumb? (saves a new thread)

Ok, what will happen when PS3 comes out??? That's it. Cheers

--Ash

 

[SSJBatMAN5000]

It wouldn't make a lick of difference, I have a program that does what you want to do, and it just makes Half-Life 2 go 2FPS faster. so yeah, just wait till it gets better/you get a better computer(I really ****ing have to get a new one.(mine is a pentium 3 800mhz ****ty thing with 256mbs of ram and pci geforce fx 5200.)

 

[Ash_Clarke]

no i meant what happens to pcsx2 wen ps3 launches. do they try to emulate ps3, or jus work on ps2. and if successful in future, then try ps3.