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Hi

Being the wrong side of my teenage years (he he) am trying hard to get to grips with the guts of my P.C. Please let me know if i can:
A) Upgrade to a x8 graphics card? (currently have a MX440SE card that since updating the Nvidia drivers some time back registers as a MX420)
B) Is that temperature not a bit hot????????
C) Where in gods name do i find a read me for this motherboard (not in German) so i can see what type of CPU and memory i can upgrade to.
Please see below for specs (is that enough?) on the AGP icon (not shown)it says x1/x2/x4 module settings for AGP port. So am i stuck with crap cards?
Many thanks in advance for any advice offered.

System
Manufacturer : MEDIONPC
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Mainboard
Manufacturer : MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL CO., LTD
MP Support : 1 CPU(s)
MPS Version : 1.40
Model : MS-6701
System BIOS : 10/24/2002-SiS-648-6A7I0M4BC-00
Chipset : SiS 648//655

System Memory Controller
Location : Mainboard
Error Correction Capability : None
Number of Memory Slots : 2
Maximum Installable Memory : 2GB
Bank0/1 - A0 : None None None None DIMM Synchronous SDRAM 256MB/64
Bank2/3 - A1 : None None None None DIMM Synchronous SDRAM 256MB/64

Chipset 1
Model : Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS) SiS648 CPU to PCI Bridge
Bus(es) : ISA AGP PCI USB FireWire/1394 i2c/SMBus
Front Side Bus Speed : 4x 134MHz (536MHz data rate)
Maximum FSB Speed / Max Memory Speed : 4x 133MHz / 2x 200MHz
Width : 64-bit
IO Queue Depth : 12 request(s)
Priority Master Queue Depth : 7 request(s)

Chipset 1 Hub Interface
Type : MUTOL
Width : 16-bit
Full Duplex : No
Multiplier : 1/1x

Logical/Chipset 1 Memory Banks
Bank 0 : 256MB DDR-SDRAM 2.5-3-3-6CL 2CMD
Bank 1 : 256MB DDR-SDRAM 2.5-3-3-6CL 2CMD
Channels : 1
Speed : 2x 134MHz (268MHz data rate)
Multiplier : 1/1x
Width : 64-bit
Refresh Rate : 7.80µs
Power Save Mode : No
Fixed Hole Present : No

Environment Monitor 1
Model : Winbond W83697(T)HF ISA
Version : 6.00
Mainboard Specific Support : No

Temperature Sensor(s)
Board Temperature : 41.0°C / 105.8°F
CPU Temperature : 36.0°C / 96.8°F td

Cooling Device(s)
Auto Fan Speed Control : No
CPU Fan Speed : 3971rpm

Voltage Sensor(s)
CPU Voltage : 1.52V
+3.3V Voltage : 3.33V
+5V Voltage : 5.08V
+12V Voltage : 11.86V
-12V Voltage : -11.87V
-5V Voltage : -5.00V
Standby Voltage : 4.97V
Battery Voltage : 3.09V

AGP Bus(es) on Hub 1
Version : 2.00
Speed : 4x
Fast-Writes Enabled : No
Side Band Enabled : No
Side Band Support : Yes
Aperture Size : 128MB

PCI Bus(es) on Hub 1
Version : 2.10
Number of Bridges : 1
PCI Bus 0 : PCI (1/1x PCIClk)

LPC Hub Controller 1
Model : Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS) SiS PCI to ISA Bridge (LPC Bridge)
ACPI Power Management Enabled : Yes
Multiplier : 1/4x

USB Controller 1
Model : Micro-Star International Co Ltd (MSI) SiS5597/8 Universal Serial Bus Controller
Version : 1.00
Interface : OHCI
Channels : 2
Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps)
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No

USB Controller 2
Model : Micro-Star International Co Ltd (MSI) SiS5597/8 Universal Serial Bus Controller
Version : 1.00
Interface : OHCI
Channels : 2
Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps)
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No

USB Controller 3
Model : Micro-Star International Co Ltd (MSI) SiS5597/8 Universal Serial Bus Controller
Version : 1.00
Interface : OHCI
Channels : 2
Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps)
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No

USB Controller 4
Model : Micro-Star International Co Ltd (MSI) SiS7002 USB 2.0 Enhanced Controller
Version : 2.00
Specification : 1.00
Interface : EHCI
Channels : 6
Companion Controllers : 3
Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps) High (480Mbps)
Addressing Support : 32-bit
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No

FireWire/1394 Controller 1
Model : Micro-Star International Co Ltd (MSI) SiS OHCI Compliant FireWire Controller
Version : 1.00
Interface : OHCI
Enhanced Support : Yes
Channels : 64
Speed : 400MHz

System SMBus Controller 1
Model : SiS 5595 Internal SMBus
Advanced TCO Mode Enabled : No
Slave Device Enabled : No
PEC Support : No

Expansion Slot(s)
PCI0 (1h) : PCI 32-bit +5V PME Full-Length Available (Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS) Virtual PCI to PCI Bridge)
PCI1 (2h) : PCI 32-bit +5V PME Full-Length Available (Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS) SiS PCI to ISA Bridge (LPC Bridge))
PCI2 (3h) : PCI 32-bit +5V PME Full-Length Used (Micro-Star International Co Ltd (MSI) SiS5597/8 Universal Serial Bus Controller)
AGP (8h) : AGP 32-bit +5V Full-Length Available (Micro-Star International Co Ltd (MSI) GeForce4 MX 420 [NV17.3])

Port Connector
PRIMARY IDE : None - ATA / None
SECONDARY IDE : None - ATA / None
FDD : 8251 FIFO - Floppy Disk / None
COM1 : Serial Port 16450 - 9 Pin Dual Inline / DB-9 pin male
COM2 : Serial Port 16450 - 9 Pin Dual Inline / DB-9 pin male
LPT1 : Parallel Port ECP/EPP - DB-25 pin female / DB-25 pin female
Keyboard : Keyboard - PS/2 / PS/2
PS/2 Mouse : Mouse - PS/2 / PS/2
USB : USB - None / None

Performance Tips
Warning 2533 : Disabled host controllers are present. Check BIOS settings.
Notice 224 : SMBIOS/DMI information may be inaccurate.
Warning 2507 : Mainboard has too few memory slots. Upgrading the memory may be difficult or expensive.
Warning 2508 : All memory slots are full. Upgrading the memory may be difficult or expensive.
Warning 100 : Large memory sizes should be made of Registered/Buffered memory.
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That's strange, my computer is very much similar to yours other than the fact that my motherboard is model MS-6579 and I have a 2.4 GHz processor and 1024 MB of RAM.

To answer your question, though, most AGP 8x cards should be compatible with 4x AGP. I plan on upgrading to a 6600 as well (Using a 52ooU right now >_<!)
 

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Thanks for reply, mine was bought afew years back and has a 2.6 P4, 512Mb's memory, Medion seem the masters of hiding information/ mix and match, and although stable it's fast getting out dated when i come to use new apps and games.
Was thrilled to hear that MBoard should support x8 cards but wonder if it will suffer reduction due to only x4 compliant.Am stuck between budget and need to up grade :(
 

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The temperature is perfectly acceptable :). The performance difference between AGP 8x and 4x is only a couple percent at the most. Also, next time edit your previous post instead of double posting.
 

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actually your pc isn't that far out of date...a new graphics card is the only thing I see that you REALLY need. Also, if you haven't bothered to learn how yet....you have a 2.6ghz pentium.....overclock it!!!! Even on just air cooling, I think it would be easy to get yourself up to the 3ghz mark.
 

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n_w95482, Am relieved temp is ok! darn thing been throwing me off C+C Zero Hour recently and felt case and thought even that seemed hot, will have to look else where for that problem.Very sorry about double post, forum etiquette i'll have to learn fast by sounds of it!
Player_X, thanks for the links will check them out right away.Have made an effort myself but constantly ran into German sites that once translated are pretty "off" what i was looking for in terms of specs and up-gradability.
Jldnr77, Over clocking !!!!! damn i've read some about that and now it's out of warrenty may look into that further.What's the dangers though? a blown P.C perhaps? or are 99% of things restorable? do the benefits out way the cons interms of performance?
To all, Thanks for replies. It's intimidating moving into an area where experience and greater knowledge is found, nice to know someone looks out for the little guys !!!!! Cheers for guidance, appreciated.
 

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Well when overclocking you can burn out the pc/videocard if you don't do it right,since yours is a premade one i doubt you will be bale to overclock the cpu since most premade systems don't allow it.
 

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Yeah, if you have a brand name computer like HP, or Compaq, or Dell, you probably won't be able to overclock at all....if you can overclock....there are guides all over the internet that will give a newbie help in overclocking.
 

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Another MSI mobo :p I have the K7N2 (MSI 6570) Although your board is very old :p (SiS) The temp is pretty good. Is that the temp when it's idle? Mine goes up to 56 when it's idle
dull_pc_guy: When you f'ed your board due to ocing, that's a sign of n00b......lack of knowledge, not knowing what you're doing. OC is not a problem when you know what's going on in your computer
 

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overclocking:
the n00b way: boost it 100MHz at a time and wonder what you did wrong after your MOBO catches fire
The right way: raise it 2-10MHz at a time test it with something until stability can be ensured, repeat until unstable, raise voltage, install new heatsink, keep raising CPU 2-10 MHz repeat ntil satisfied
 

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Thanks for replies, will look into overclocking, Thoughtless: that Sandra report taken seconds after crashing to desktop due to "Serious error:posisble causes overheating or viruses" warning appeared.Think safe to rule out over heating and as for viruses i doubt cause have AVG and Sygate protection,
Am growing in confidence with tackling over clocking, will have to researcha nd learn more before willing to commit. Just upgraded graphics card (don't laugh cause was a bargain at £25 off mate) to a Geforce FX 5700LE. Am like in hysteria with difference to old MX 440 lol. Know it's not the bee's knees but difference is mind blowing !!!!!
 
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