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Publisher: Rockstar Vancouver
Genre: First-person game

Bully: Scholarship Edition, is another classical Rockstar release. Sometimes referred to, as 'GTA at school', it does, indeed, deliver a similar gaming experience as some of the other top-noch GTA games under the environment of an educational institution called "Bullworth Academy". Your main character will be an unfortunate 15 year old named Jimmy Hopkins whose mother has had 5 marriages oO and the kid has been expelled from 7 other schools before arriving here. Corruption and fowl play dominate this academy and as a new kid, you must embark upon a series of tasks to ensure your dominance over all others.

System Tested On:

-=System Requirements=-
PC Processor Type --- Intel® Pentium® 4 processor, AMD Athlon™ processor
PC Processor Speed --- 3GHz
PC Operating System --- Windows XP, Windows Vista
PC System Memory --- 1GB RAM
PC Hard Drive Space --- 4.7GB
PC Video --- DirectX 9.0c-compatible NVIDIA 6800 or 7300 or ATI RADEON X1300 or better video card with Shader 3.0 support
PC Sound Card --- DirectX 9-compatible sound card

-=My system=-
Intel E2160 @ 2.14GHz
ATI HD2400 Pro @ 607/1023
Kingston 2GB DDR2 667MHz RAM

Gameplay (9/10):

As mentioned earlier, fowl-play and corruption dominate the environment at Bullworth Academy. The teachers' attitude is similar to that of a prison rather then an educational institution. The most important thing to keep in mind here, is that the school is clearly divided into a number of factions and cliques, namely, the bullies, jocks, greasers and nerds. The entire story-line is divided into 6 chapters.

The Good:

If I were asked to describe this in one sentence, I'd say that the taks are awesome! This is typical of a Rockstar game. Your task objective isn't just to go out and beat a bunch of tough guys (well it boils down to doing that in most cases :D but anyway...) You take on a variety of tasks, some of which are as simple as going out and beating someone, while others require you to remain stealthy and keep a low profile. This game provided me with a well-earned break from the other FPS games which I was playing like CoD whose aim was pretty bland and dull. In some tasks, you'll need to recover some items from enemies, some tasks will be more like a reconnisanse mission where you go out and photograph malicious acts to provide proof, while other will require you to win a bike race or boxing match. All in all, each task is unique and gives you a different thrill and it all contributes to making the game pretty darn addictive. The story-line is also very interesting, full of surprises and twists and turns. In an instant, your greatest foe becomes your friend while your greatest friend betrays you and turns out to be plotting against you all along. You're always just dying to know what will happen next! Another great thing is that the game world isn't just limited to the school, there is also a an entire city outside of the school which will be accessible after you complete chapter 1 (though some parts of it will still remain locked and you won't have full access until the start of chapter 5). Apart from the main story-line and tasks, there are also a number of side-tasks and objectives, like getting a job (newspaper delivery boy anyone?), running errands for students (like escorting them safely to their desired location or silly stuff like planting fire crackers into toilets or stuffing students into garbage cans and picking locks lol) Each of these side-tasks bring you a small reward like money or new costumes and such. You can also flirt with girls and take them to the carnival to show off your strength and try to get them to kiss you :heh:

Now onto your arsenal! You'll have a wide array of typical school-yard weapons. You'll start off the game with nothing but fists, but you'll get a slingshot in no time and soon, a super slingshot (which is the mainstay weapon). Apart from this, you'll also have some other prank stuff like itching powder, 'kick me' signs (lol), bags of marbles (to make people slip) and spray paints (for graffiti). Later on in the game, you'll also come across the spudgun, which is the most powerful weapon in the game, but ammo for it will be limited.

Oh wait! I just forgot the main thing which you're supposed to do in school: classes! :D You study a wdie range of subjects, namely English (make words from jumbled letters), Biology (animal dissections, anyone like to identify and extract a frog's testicles? :lol:), Chemistry (just mixing stuff right), Math (basic arithmetics), Photography (very interesting, you're supposed to find unique stuff in and around the school like banners and hobos and take shots of them), Auto-shop (work on bikes and cars), Art (a modded version of a Sega game) and gym (dodge-ball!). You'll have 2 classes each day and no weekend. But hey! You can always bunk these classes and you son't have to complete them straight away. After you complete the main story-line, you'll start chapter 6 called "Endless Summer" where you'll get infinite time to complete all these classes and side-tasks, the main story-line, is just half of the entire game (no seriously) When I completed the main tasks, I only achieved 50.5% game completion oO.

The Bad:

As with almost all other Rockstar games, you'd expect to have a whole bunch of cheat codes to play around with. Sadly for the PC version of this game, there aren't any cheats to go about right now. Your average gaming website doesn't even mention the PC version of this game, and the ones that do, have no cheats to go around at the moment. They are available for the PS2, Wii, PS3 and Xbox 360 version, but not for PC (which is a real bummer!) But on scouring the net for a while, I was able to come across a trainer at CheatHappens which allows you to have infinite health, no wanted level, and instant save. Moreover, I couldn't help but notice that the game world is somewhat small. It's MUCH larger then the game world in other games I must admit, but nowhere near the size of San Andreas. In other words, the city could have been a bit bigger and more interesting.

The Ugly:

Firstly, you won't be able to roam the school and city without fear of randomly being attacked oO Each clique has its own turfs in and outside the school. So the jocks will normally be found in and around the athletics section, the greasers will hang around the auto-shop, the nerds will be around the library (no surprise their eih?) and their large secret "observatory" behind it, the preps (rick kids) will be near the Harrington House and the high-income community in town, and finally, the townies (who aren't actually part of the school and will only emerge as a clique in chapter 5) occupy the low-income caravan parks in the industrial part of town, they're poor kids who have either been expelled from school, or didn't have enough money to afford it. Your main objective of the game is to gain respect amongst the various factions and cliques, these cliques are constantly at war and rivalry with each other. Throughout the game, you'll ally with one clique to defeat another and hence, some parts of town and school will ALWAYS remain no-go areas until chapter 6, unless you have the guts to withstand non-stop pumelling. So it's pretty difficult to acomplish much of anything in these no-go areas. The main story-line tasks will always result in your respect increasing with one clique, and decreasing with another.

Another thing which is pretty nasty, is that prefects basically reign supreme in the school. No matter what your respect and status is, they'll catch you if you do ANYTHING wrong and there's loads of them patrolling the grounds and the main school building. Truanting classes will result in your wanted level rising, and if a prefect catches you, he'll send you to your class and you'll fail your current objective. Violence, in any form, spikes your wanted level too and you'll get busted if you're caught; one or more of your weapons will be taken away from you as a result. This is why I found it absolutely necessary to apply that trainer to make life easy. A curfew is in place after 11 (there is a clock on the top-left corner of your screen) and you're expected to be in your dorm by then. The girls dorm is also off-limits (trespassing) :D

Graphics (8.5/10):

The graphics are.......average I must say. With my specs, I was running the game at 2x AA, low shadow quality and 1024x768 resolution. For 80% of the game world, this setting gave me fairly decent fps (didn't test it though) but in some indoor places where there were lots of shadows and such, the fps dropped dramatically (to ~20 fps I guess). I checked out some of the screenshots in some websites and they were fairly acceptable, nothing out-of-this-world or exceptional though. But since it didn't demand much, I'm gonna give it a good rating :p For all you graphics whores though, you will HAVE to set shadow quality on High, otherwise, the shadows are just plain old blur and jaggy. 4x AA also gives it a nice little boost.

Stability and bugs (9/10):

I just wanted to add this as a category since I've seen many people here, and on other places complaining about the stability factor and that it's full of bugs. The original version might have been buggy, but this v1.154 is totally stable. Not once when I was playing, did I get any sort of errors, BSoDs or freezes. The only bug which I came across was that a part of the introductory clip appears in 8-bit color, as did the video which plays when you start the story-line of the game. But other then that, all the options and game play is all normal and completely stable.

Replay Value/Online play:

I didn't bother to give a rating since it's almost nil :p And there's definitely nothing worth replaying in it. But as I said before, after you complete the story-line missions, there are a number of side-missions and school classes which you have to complete in order to achieve full game completion. There are also some collectible items in the game. There are 75 rubber bands and 40 G&G cards scattered throughout the game world in sometimes akward spots which you have to find. Finding all the rubber bands will give you a large rubber band ball which you can throw around a room and take out everyone in it, while collecting all the G&G cards gives you a nice and cool costume, so there's definitely some incentive to continue playing after you conplete the main story, not that it would count as "replay value" though (or at least I think....)

Overall (9.5/10):

I must say that this game was absolutely fantastic! The first time I played this was on my friends' PS2 and it was love at first sight, I'd been waiting for months for a PC version of this game, and IMO, the wait was well worth it. I'd been feeding exclusively on FPS fodder for months before this, and was getting bored of being a soldier and killing eneimes, so this game gave me a nice little break from that dull story-line. I think this game is a must-buy for anyone who liked the GTA series. It's an A-one game that deserves top-score!


Sorry if I made my review extremely long and that it actually resembles a brief walk-through now :)D) but I think it's worth it, and still, there's some other cool stuff as well which I didn't get around to mention.
 

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But Playstation 2 and PC's "Bully" still has its critics, who say any kind of violence anywhere is not acceptable in a game. It created even more problems with the game, indeed.

Its content is too violent for young children,teenagers and even adults. In making such a game Rockstar has been juvenile, shameful and irresponsible... Rockstar is sick, period!

I would give poor score just because of violent content. Scale from 1 to 10? I would rate to minus zero. You may not agree with me, but I hope you will respect my opinion. :)
 

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Those "critics" have never actually played the game. The violence shown is no more severe than the average male youth has already experienced on both giving and receiving sides, fighting and mischief are normal parts of growing up, Rockstar captured this perfectly, put the name "Bully" on it making people think its some sort of sociopathic preying-on-the-weak sort of game when really its just a comical and fun coming of age game where you can shoot at people with potato cannons and knock townies over with a skateboard.

Clearly detrimental to society. And this Jimmy Hopkins character, so rude and irreverent. Like that Elvis guy with his jiggling hips.

(didn't even know there was a 1.157 patch out already, does it fix the weird blurriness, gamefreak?)
 

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A normal parts of growing up ? Technically incorrect, I don't agreed with you at all.. Absolutely not at all.

If you think bullying is normal, you're less likely to say or do anything about it. Getting teased, picked on, pushed around, threatened, harassed, insulted, hurt, or abused is not normal. You are wrong. Young victims and even adult victims get hurt, both emotionally and physically. Young bullies can grow up to be abusive adults, indeed. This game is not fun at all. It's so disgusting & sickening.
 

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A normal parts of growing up ? Technically incorrect, I don't agreed with you at all.. Absolutely not at all.

If you think bullying is normal, you're less likely to say or do anything about it. Getting teased, picked on, pushed around, threatened, harassed, insulted, hurt, or abused is not normal. You are wrong. Young victims and even adult victims get hurt, both emotionally and physically. Young bullies can grow up to be abusive adults, indeed. This game is not fun at all. It's so disgusting & sickening.
If I may....

You don't play a bully in this game. You play a bully against bullys in this game. Many of your missions are based on helping people throughout the game. Anyway, if theyre nerds or any other stereotype. And the most *bad* things you do are giving out threats.
 

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It doesn't matter if you play a bully against bullys in this game. This game is not fun at all.

Also, seeking out revenge would just make things worse. A bully wanted revenge on those bullies for whacking someone up is a revenge and it's wrong, man.

One thing, don't blame the children or teenagers, blame the parents that have a misconception that a video game console is a baby sitter. Parents need to play an active role in what their children nor teenagers are exposed to, their lack of parental responsibility is to blame.

Does playing Bully make someone violent? Maybe and maybe not. Again, I know violent are a bad influence. Keep in mind that children do not understand violence in or out play as adults do.

Yes, blame the video game industry and blame the parents.
 

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It doesn't matter if you play a bully against bullys in this game. This game is not fun at all.

Also, seeking out revenge would just make things worse. A bully wanted revenge on those bullies for whacking someone up is a revenge and it's wrong, man.

One thing, don't blame the children or teenagers, blame the parents that have a misconception that a video game console is a baby sitter. Parents need to play an active role in what their children nor teenagers are exposed to, their lack of parental responsibility is to blame.

Does playing Bully make someone violent? Maybe and maybe not. Again, I know violent are a bad influence. Keep in mind that children do not understand violence in or out play as adults do.

Yes, blame the video game industry and blame the parents.
Did you play the game, honestly? Because, yes this game isn't for childern. But it's a satirical game, it has stereotypes, references to everyones youth, deep characteres, etc. etc. if you can't go on with that type of humor, it's your problem.
 

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Technically Incorrect: You assume wrong. Did I say that ? No.

Desred, this game is absolutely sick, that's simple. If you think that's funny then one day you will wake up and realize it wasn't just a humor anymore.
 

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A normal parts of growing up ? Technically incorrect, I don't agreed with you at all.. Absolutely not at all.

If you think bullying is normal, you're less likely to say or do anything about it. Getting teased, picked on, pushed around, threatened, harassed, insulted, hurt, or abused is not normal. You are wrong.
You cant put abuse in the same sentence as the rest of those. There are miles of difference between the two.

Being bullied is a fact of life for almost every child at one point in their life. It is a natural evolutionary tactic to make the kid learn to stand up for himself when his parents are not around to protect him. 5 minutes of pain ensures his survival long after they are dead.

Fighting/Bullying/Teasing/Mild Harrassment (all contained within the game) are normal parts of growing up.

Abuse/extreme harassment etc are completely different and not shown in the game in any capacity.


Tyler: Never been in a fight. You?
Narrator: No, but-- that's a good thing, right?
Tyler: No, it's not. How much can you know about yourself, you've never been in a fight? I don't wanna die without any scars.

Young victims and even adult victims get hurt, both emotionally and physically. Young bullies can grow up to be abusive adults, indeed. This game is not fun at all. It's so disgusting & sickening.
They only get long term hurt if they have been sheltered most of their life, and in that case its more the shell shock of the event than the actual bullying itself. Children should gradually learn, from an early age the sad fact of life that the world can be a harsh place. It conditions them for what is to come as an adult, if you deny them that, they will suffer more pain than any potato cannon shot to the head can cause them.
 

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Interesting. I think that your point's view is (perhaps unintentionally) the same as the "War on bullies" conservatives -- they too argue that bullies has become too secularized. If you want your kid playing a game like this one, that's your decision.

Fighting/Bullying/Teasing/Mild Harrassment (all contained within the game) are normal parts of growing up.
No, I don't agree with that statement.
 

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Interesting. I think that your point's view is (perhaps unintentionally) the same as the "War on bullies" conservatives -- they too argue that bullies has become too secularized. If you want your kid playing a game like this one, that's your decision.
Yay politicization!

Secularized? What? Bullies are becoming less religious?

Define a child? Age//intelligence/maturity level as observed by parent? Existing behavioral problems? etc etc

You have to take more into consideration than just "OMG PROTECT THE CHILDREN" when deciding whether or not to allow your child to play a video game or view any entertainment medium rather.
 

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Technically Incorrect: You assume wrong. Did I say that ? No.

Desred, this game is absolutely sick, that's simple. If you think that's funny then one day you will wake up and realize it wasn't just a humor anymore.
I don't exactly know, what you referring too. I thought a statement of yours was that this doesn't belong in children's hands. If I assumed wrong. Sorry.

Besides, you just say:

"This game is sick* The end.

You didn't answer me when I said this is humor!!! You didn't even seem to care about my points with the stereotypes.

So, why are the contents of this game sick and not just a satirical response on school life?
 

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Well, this game is not humor to my eyes. It's sad, it's awful, man. Really. Seriously. I don't know why you think it is humor. You are strange.


If you've never experienced any of those, you haven't truly grown up.
Hahaha. Really ???

Admittedly, That's a big "If". :)

Actually, you really haven't grown up because you grown up believing that violence is "normal behavior." The world would be a better place without bullies but the reality is, bullies do exist and we can't do anything to stop them. We have pumped billions of dollars fighting drugs, bullies, and etc and it hasn't worked. I would love a world without drugs sexual disease, but I deal in real life, and not idealism. You need to understand that. There's NO excuse for violence as "normal behavior". None.
 

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Well, this game is not humor to my eyes. It's sad, it's awful, man. Really. Seriously. I don't know why you think it is humor. Strange.




Hahaha. Really ???

Admittedly, That's A Big "If". :)

Actually, you really haven't grown up because you grown up believing that violence is "normal behavior." The world would be a better place without bullies but the reality is, bullies do exist and we can't do anything to stop them. We have pumped billions of dollars fighting drugs, bullies, and etc and it hasn't worked. I would love a world without drugs sexual disease, but I deal in real life, and not idealism. You need to understand that. There's NO excuse for violence as "normal behavior". None.
contradiction much (and make note that "normal" doesn't imply ideal or even good)

Not that "good" should ever be normal. A world without bullies or violence in any form would the worst world imaginable. Its the bad parts and people in the world that makes the good ones good.
 

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Not that "good" should ever be normal. A world without bullies or violence in any form would the worst world imaginable. Its the bad parts and people in the world that makes the good ones good.
Sorry for the harsh expression, but that is sheer stupidity. I don't need to get beaten up to enjoy a nice week-end with my girlfriend. If you had to grow up getting bullied or whatever every day, then it's sad (and I say that very sincerely). Unfortunately, pretending it's the way it should be for everyone anyway is only a bad way of protecting yourself from the reality of you not having deserved such treatments. The only productive way to deal with this (that is, if you do want to get over it) is accepting this truth. Hiding behind the self-induced lie that "this is the way everyone should experience childhood / life" is not the way to go.

On another note, I haven't played the game (and don't plan to), but i'm fine with it being on the shelves. Let people decide what they want to buy or not.
 

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Bullying shouldn't be acceptable behavior, nor should a person have to become violent to fight off a bully. Exactly what do you "pro bully" people think is acceptable bullying, should girls or boys be molested so they understand sex? Many schools have zero tolerance and will expel the victim with the bully if s/he fights back, no retribution isn't always advised, and some times kids get shot in school over this, Columbine anyone?

Still, this is a game for adults many of whom survived bullying. Unless they're teaching their kids its ok to bully others, I think this is fine for adults. I play Grand Theft Auto but I don't want to be in the Mafia.

I have the PS2 version. I haven't really played it much.
 

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I'm not "pro-bullying" I've been on both sides of it as a kid, and as an adult I don't think it should be encouraged or tolerated at all. I do however realize that it will happen and that it is a fact of life and that it does actually have a purpose.
 

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It's a game, it's a game meant for people who have just left school and older who want relive their school life in a humerous way. Honestly is this game would have been called School Life instead of Bully there would be much less of a problem.
I am fat, I am bloody huge, I know all about being victimised and being bullied, on some days I felt just like those people who kill their entire class before shooting themselves, I myself fantasised giving them some of their own medicine, possibly blowing their brains out like those cases that cause all the ruckus about games like this, but I never did and I never will. And after all this I have no problem with such a game, hell this does not even sound half as bad as GTA, it sounds like great fun and I want a go although I somehow feel the review might be a little biased and I personally hate escort/protection missions.



Gamefreak, Rule #2 to a good review is no spoilers (Rule #1 is No Bias), giving background is all well and good, saying more stuff will be unlocked later, but telling you your best friend betrays you at the end and makes your life a living hell is entirely another.

One thing I am curious about though, other than the weapons obviously not being as brutal, is the battle/fighting/gameplay the same as GTA? Because the punching part would be better on a redone hack and slash engine in my opinion...or does it fell ok and not annoying?
 

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If you justify bullying as having a purpose, then you're saying it's acceptable, and you said you have been on both sides of the issue, so I guess you thought or believe it is ok to bully kids.

Should they be molested as well? What kind of bullying is good? Why is it ok to physically and psychologically harm children?
 

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If you justify bullying as having a purpose, then you're saying it's acceptable, and you said you have been on both sides of the issue, so I guess you thought or believe it is ok to bully kids.

Should they be molested as well? What kind of bullying is good? Why is it ok to physically and psychologically harm children?
Nice straw man with the whole molestation thing.

Simply saying something has a purpose, does not in any way endorse or condone an action.
 
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