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Thanks....I'm still here, just not posting anything lately....
working on something else right now......:D:D:D:D:D
 

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That's not entirely true, as I said in my first post. 4GB isn't a waste on a 32-bit OS, nor is it worth moving to a 64-bit OS with 4GB. There are exceptions, like if you're using a video card with alot of RAM, but most people typically see ~3.25GB. In that case, you'd gain 768MB by moving to a 64-bit OS, but the larger memory footprint almost negates it. You'll gain some, but it's not worth it to switch just for that. 6GB or 8GB is where it'll be worth it.
 

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The thing is Zedeck, with Ram prices (especially DDR3) in a free fall, no one is going to take a look at under 4gb. Unless the ram itself is performance oriented (~1800+ mhz)
 

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The thing is Zedeck, with Ram prices (especially DDR3) in a free fall, no one is going to take a look at under 4gb. Unless the ram itself is performance oriented (~1800+ mhz)
...And, that has what, exactly, to do with what was being said about the difference between 32-bit or 64-bit with using 4GB?

I don't mean this negatively to you, but it what is with everyone around this forum changing the subject or point amidst discussing another? It's annoying. Your point is true enough, but unrelated to what was being said.
 

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I wasnt changing the subject. I simply said 4gb -8 (or more) of ram was cheap, alluding to my earlier post that a 64 bit OS would be the way to go.

Or maybe I should lay off posting while half sleep. Should have worded it better.

Btw, I was going off your thread title (Expierience with 8gb, I just noticed what you were talking about just now XD
 

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But you weren't saying a 64-bit OS was the way to go. You simply said "make sure you have a 64-bit OS for 4GB of RAM", and I was saying that's not exactly necessarily so. While a 32-bit OS won't see the full 4GB, unless you're in a situation where you're seeing less than 3GB of it, the difference you'll gain is really just a few hundred MBs of RAM, which is peanuts in the overall picture (if 200MB-300MB really makes a difference in a certain situation, you should be on more than 4GB to begin with). 64-bit software, which includes the OS itself, as well as programs, have a slightly larger memory footprint, so you'll gain a few hundred MBs at most. As I said, that's not worth it.

Also, here's a good article about memory amount and how much is enough. It basically confirms everything I said. The difference for the things most of us do is absolutely nothing at all. Most people don't need more than 4GB.

Do You Really Need More Than 6 GB Of RAM? : Is “Too Much†Really Just Enough?
 

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The most I use out of 6GB with my i7 is 4.6/6GB with company of heroes on ultra settings.
 

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Oh? i was thinking of installing a ram drive :p
 

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Read up a bit here as I have 8GB of 1066. it's 4x2GB 5-5-5-15 G.Skill. Running with a Phenom II Deneb 940. I just set the voltage to the 2.1 that's specified and no issues. When I was on the 790GX chipset, the deneb was sitting on 3.4 by adjusting the multiplier alone. Running a 750a Chipset now so that I can SLi my 8800s the ram is now at 904 with same timings and the freq is 226. still no stability issues. Wishing I had gotten then 780a instead so I could play with the cpu multiplier but, alwell. For stability testing, I ran 4 instances of prime 95 at the same time over night. No errors for either build.
 

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I did read up on it. Notice the title of the thread is "my experience with 8GB of RAM" and not "What's what of 8GB of RAM based on what I think". I did choose to use 4GB for now, as I haven't gotten it stable at 4.5GHz with 8GB of RAM, and there's nothing I use that would benefit from it. I still think that with RAM, more is always better, but given the special conditions with 32-bit limits and 4GB, and most programs being 32-bit, I simply see no loss with sticking to 4GB for now since I can get a higher CPU clock speed with it. Again, this thread was about my experiences with 8GB of RAM. i did note that it'd be hard to get a combination of tight timings and higher than 800MHz speed, but obviously, hardware differs. Is that an actual 4x2GB kit, or two 2x2GB kits? It makes a difference. Even though a kit is published to run at certain timings, that it with each other, and sometimes with four sticks, things aren't the same, especially if the modules were purchased apart (like mine were, although they both say version 3.1, but diuffer in appearance and published timings). That does give me hope for trying 8GB again in the future, but for now, I'd rather not mess with it and get the benefits of low RAM and/or chipset voltages since the 8GB won't give me any boost anyway. this is just my experience and my situation, and I was sharing it.
 

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my bad, I left out the "I" in "I read up abit" I was merely adding my experience with it. Not disputing your findings.

Also seems I left out I'm using 64bit Vista.

It's a pair of 2x2GB DDR2 1006 Dual channel kits. They're clocked identical (should be at least) and the pairing is maintained for the channels.

Thought came to mind, is the 8gb issue in general or intel/amd based? I saw the mentioning of the ddr volt increase and north bridge volt increase to address stability issues but, is that really needed in most cases? Like my ram for example, is 1.8 in ddr2 800 or 2.0-2.1 for 1066. I just use the voltage labeled by spec and the nb is stock voltage.runs solid. maybe is chipset/ mem controller related and the 940 resolved the issue?
 
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