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I think I've hit "the wall" for framerates on my video card. It's an ATI Rage Fury Pro VIVO, running under Windows XP.

When running GT2 under ePSXe, I can hit 60FPS but not when racing (in other words, during practice, etc.). Draw other cars onscreen and the framerate becomes very erratic, dropping to below 20 sometimes, making the game very slow. This seems to be independent of screen resolution - it happens at 640x480 and below, not as bad when running the lower resolutions. Higher than 800x600 the game is playable but not very realistic, as the car response is very slow (great for learning, though, because when practicing a track you have a lot of time to react).

My setup, is as follows: Asus CUSL2-M with a tweaked BIOS(allows AGP to stay at 4x when overclocking), Celeron 800, 512MB ram, ATI Rage Fury Pro. The Celeron 800 is a newer stepping (cD0) and runs happily at 155FSB (1240MHz). ePSXe is using Petes latest D3D driver (simply AWESOME!) and the Eternal plugin. Even when I set Pete's plugin to "fast" the framerates drop when multiple cars are onscreen (and the screen gets ugly!)

So is my frame rate limited by my GPU or CPU? I thought it was the GPU, but got confused by the fact that it only gets marginally better when I drop the resolution. I also tested different overclocking settings, running the 800 at 133 FSB (1064MHz). This made very little difference, though the frame rates did drop a bit, only a couple of FPS was lost.

If you've read this far, Ii thank you. If you have any knowledge to share with me about my framerate issue, I thank you even more.

Should I just bite the bullet and get a GeForce? I think even an MX400 would whoop my ATI, right? And if I'm a really good boy, Santa and my credit card could get me a GeForce 3ti200 or Ti500..... or do I just need to get a "real" PIII processor for my mainboard? I'd rather not spend a ton of money on the video right now, as I am trying to save enough to build an AMD based system sometime early next year.

Anybody got an idea?
 

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just get an average geforce2 to contain your needs for now. I think... i need a new cpu too... i have a tnt2 m64
 

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Well, if you can do without the enhanced 3d graphics then try one of the software pluggins.. They should run fast for you since you don't have a good video card but your cpu is a speedy little celly.. I recommmend petes software pluggin and the newly updated kazzuya software pluggin.. Both should work fine on your computer..

I already have a great athlon system, but I gotta get me one of those Athlon xp's with a geforce 3 ti500 on my agp and a voodoo 5 5500 pci on my pci.. I gotta have my glide games..
 

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XP's Driver Database is pretty big, but the drivers arent all that great...

www.ati.com

go look for XP drivers for your card. they might help performance

Edit: Umm, there is a Rage Fury 128 Pro
and there is a Radeo 64MB DDR Vivo

No Rage Fury Pro VIVO

Ahh whatever, just click tech support, and "Find a Driver"

Try updating DirectX too
 

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ATI rage vivo? I think thats an old card. Is that the competitor of tnt 2 cards?? Back to the topic. Incase you didnt know why you cant hit 60fps above, It is because of the refreshfrate problem on winxp/win2k platform. I dont know if theres a fix for Ati cards. You can disable vsync to remove the refreshrate limit of your monitor but it will result tearings of graphics. But there is on nvidia cards. Its called nvreffix.
 

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Thanks to all!

Thanks, everyone, for the suggestions.

To clear things up: the Rage Fury Pro was a"competitor" to the TNT2, but never was as fast (I have a TnT2 Ultra in my son's machine).

VIVO means video in/video out.

My card runs Pete's D3D drivers at 75Hz, or 85Hz, or whatever I set the override to in DXDIAG.

I do have the ATI drivers, and both the ATI and Microsoft releases do the same thing.

Trying a software driver (Pete's) worked, Kazzuyas worked but with some glitches.

With a little patience, I figured it out. Filtering! If I set filtering to "standard" I get 58 to 60 FPS in practice runs with GT2. I had it on "extended", which is how I ran under Win2k. Setting the fltering to "extended" makes for a huge performance penalty.

I can now run 640x480x32 and keep a reasonable framerate (above 50) when racing other cars.

I still think I should buy a GeForce card, though. I could run 1600x1200 with a Ti500, I'm sure. ;)
 
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