Modem question

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FireGL

Discussion Starter · Nov 5, 2001

i'm a confuse

w/c modem is faster external 56k v90 or internal pci 56k v90 modem pls help me

give me the good and bad sside of each other thanks

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Ali

· #2 · Nov 5, 2001

Okay.........I don't have a very big experience in modems but here U go.....!

Internal modems are good, of they contain a good chip like Lucent.....and also they should be hardware ones, not the software modems...they suck.......big TIME!......but there speed is not as good as the external ones. Now we know externals are good but which ones, the ones which use com port instead of the USB. The USB port is slower, so when U get an external Modem I would suggest you to get the ones which doesnot uses the external USB port............!

I have both modem a US Robotics external modem and an internal Lucent.....both are good but the difference between the speeds is not that big noticable..........well that actually depends on your ISP...........! as well as my ISP is conerned I have the following finger for him:fingers: :fingers: :fingers: :fingers: :fingers: :fingers: :fingers: :fingers: :fingers: :fingers: :fingers: :fingers: :fingers: :fingers: :fingers: :fingers: :fingers: :fingers: :fingers: :fingers: :fingers: :fingers: :fingers:
Hope these finger.........I mean this info was helpful.........!

Ali

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FireGL

Discussion Starter · #3 · Nov 5, 2001

and also they should be hardware ones, not the software modems...they suck.......big TIME!.....

thanks man but how do i know if it software or hardware? i use Genius GM56PCI-SM speakerphone modem

Zephon

· #4 · Nov 5, 2001

It's a soft one. Check this site: http://www.geniusnet.com.tw/product/faxmodem/gm56pci-sm.htm
It has come info on your modem. It says that it has "Host Signal Processing" which means "Software Modem". Too bad for you. I hate HSP modems

Betamax

· #5 · Nov 6, 2001 (Edited)

Hardware modems well normally state that they have an on board (or hardware) DSP (Digital Signal Processor) AND controller. They are usually more expensive than software ones. If you own a Branded pc (eg Gatway Packard bell :spy: ) then you are guaranteed to have a software one for this very reason.

Another easy way to tell if its hardware or software is to check the minimium requirements. If the modem requires at least a pentum 150 MMX then it's software, as software modems require MMX instructions to work properly.
Another clue is if it states that it will only run under windows 95/98/2000/nt. In this case its also software.

FireGL

Discussion Starter · #6 · Nov 6, 2001

thanks guys and dont worry i got external modem that i like to trade to internal since the internal uses software i change my mind

Shiori

· #7 · Nov 6, 2001

but what's the beef with software/HSP modems anyway?

i have one right now, and i think i get decent speeds outta it, i.e on a 56k connection, it says i connect at 52k.

Enigma1982

· #8 · Nov 6, 2001

Originally posted by Keiichi
but what's the beef with software/HSP modems anyway? i have one right now, and i think i get decent speeds outta it, i.e on a 56k connection, it says i connect at 52k.

That 's depend on your line phone.In fact I never seen anyone connect with 56K and got 56K conncetion.My maximum is 54.4K.

Shiori

· #9 · Nov 6, 2001

that's what i was wondering about. isn't that good enough?

Enigma1982

· #10 · Nov 6, 2001

If it always send and recive data and non-stop.
It 's good enough

FireGL

Discussion Starter · #11 · Nov 6, 2001

my max download in getright is 3.9 k

hey do you know how to upgrade the bios of v90 modem or something like that

ebola

· #12 · Nov 6, 2001

Originally posted by FireGL
i'm a confuse w/c modem is faster external 56k v90 or internal pci 56k v90 modem pls help me

give me the good and bad sside of each other thanks

look for a 56k v92 modem. if your server supports v92 compression then you will get the best transfer rate with it.

if your running windows and you have no desire to go to linux then you really do not need a hardware modem. the only difference on a windows box is that when using a winmodem (software modem)your computer temporarally freezes for a second when the modem connects. if your using a hardware modem then it wont freeze at all. after your connected then you wont notice any differance.

If you want to run Linux then get a hardware modem. preferably an external hardware modem that connects via the serial port. linux hates usb.

hope that helps.

kairi00

· #13 · Nov 6, 2001

Originally posted by Keiichi
but what's the beef with software/HSP modems anyway? i have one right now, and i think i get decent speeds outta it, i.e on a 56k connection, it says i connect at 52k.

The only flaw with HSP modems is just that... it's software... which means it takes up your CPU cycle.... also, Linux don't usually like these too much.

FireGL

Discussion Starter · #14 · Nov 6, 2001

look for a 56k v92 modem. if your server supports v92 compression then you will get the best transfer rate with it.

hey where can i find the v92 the site i'll try it

Zephon

· #15 · Nov 6, 2001

Originally posted by kairi00
The only flaw with HSP modems is just that... it's software... which means it takes up your CPU cycle.... also, Linux don't usually like these too much.

I've seen some reports saying that sometimes, with a not powerful cpu, if you're connected and using a cpu intense application at the same time, you may get disconnected.

btw, here in brazil phone lines suck and I only get 49k connection with my 56k modem.

I'm not sure, but I think that the only difference between v90 and v92 is the upload transfer rate, which is faster. The downloads remain at the same speed. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Betamax

· #16 · Nov 7, 2001 (Edited)

Originally posted by Keiichi
but what's the beef with software/HSP modems anyway? i have one right now, and i think i get decent speeds outta it, i.e on a 56k connection, it says i connect at 52k.

Software/HSP modems use some of the MMX instructions the main cpu in order to do the same tasks hat the DSP/controller chips used to do on the modem. As they are not required it makes software modems a lot cheeper. However depending on your CPU it can tie up to 30% of your processing time. This means that whenever you connect to the net all general tasks are slower in the long run. This is particuarly bad if you are playing games on-line as these usually have a noticable hit in performance.

V92 is a new standard which allows up to 48kps upload whilst still retaining the 56k max download. It also supports Modem-on-hold, which allows telephone calls to still be recieved if you are online. Finally there is a new compression algorithm called V.44 which allows transmitted files to be compressed even further hence inpreving transfer speeds.

FireGL

Discussion Starter · #17 · Nov 7, 2001

do you know the link of v92 driver?

Phuzzi

· #18 · Nov 7, 2001

Ask your ISP whether it even supports V92 first.

Also, as long as your cpu isn't some pos, USB and winmodems should not be any slower than full hardware modems. The issue is more compatibility with other OSes.

Betamax

· #19 · Nov 8, 2001

Originally posted by FireGL
do you know the link of v92 driver?

Who made your modem

FireGL

Discussion Starter · #20 · Nov 8, 2001

its Cirrus Logic or Rock well i dont now

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