mobo and processor decision

I think. Unless money is a real tight issue. Not getting a PCIE board for an future mobo/processor upgrade doesnt make much sense if you want to have any real future upgrade viability. GPUS usually dont have the staying power a mobo/CPU has in regards to stayability.

well I want a 939 board, and they come in pci-e as well as agp, I have a nice agp card, and don't really have the money to upgarde that right now, and I"m plenty happy with it anyway. the processor is going to be the same speed on either motherboard is it not? I'm not too conserned about pci-e....yet.

You could get an AGP board while your videocard lives out its life.. and after that, you could buy a PCI-E board+card.

You could get an AGP board while your videocard lives out its life.. and after that, you could buy a PCI-E board+card.

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which is Exactly what I want to do, but I was wondering what you guys reccommend for a processor and agp board? staying around 300 us dollars.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813123230 <- amazing board, I'm suprised it's only $83!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103537 <- Venice. Nuff said. You could OC the crap out of that thing.. way past the top model A64, and for $156, it's a steal.

thank you! thats exactly what I needed...hmm I see the 3200+ Venice isn't much more is it any good?

Valcrist said:

well I want a 939 board, and they come in pci-e as well as agp, I have a nice agp card, and don't really have the money to upgarde that right now, and I"m plenty happy with it anyway. the processor is going to be the same speed on either motherboard is it not? I'm not too conserned about pci-e....yet.

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I think thats a poor decision. You are better selling your graphic card and buying a new board and getting a PCIE board. Your graphic card will depreciate in value and your will completely hault your upgradability. I consider this a very poor decision on your part to make. As you will just cost yourself more money. Its a waste as far as I see it. PCIE will matter. And you'd be glad you had one in a year or so.

Valcrist said:

thank you! thats exactly what I needed...hmm I see the 3200+ Venice isn't much more is it any good?

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If you can afford it, get it. I chose th 3000+ because I know it overclocks extremely well (much past a 3200+) and is quite cheap.

I think thats a poor decision. You are better selling your graphic card and buying a new board and getting a PCIE board. Your graphic card will depreciate in value and your will completely hault your upgradability. I consider this a very poor decision on your part to make. As you will just cost yourself more money. Its a waste as far as I see it. PCIE will matter. And you'd be glad you had one in a year or so.

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Well the board is only 83 dollars, where as a pci-e board would be a little more. If I sould my video card I wouldn't get as much as I paid for it seeing as how its used, which would put me in the hole even more. Where as if I get a board with agp I can use my card up untill I need a new one (which should at LEAST be a year) then buy a new board and video card wich yes your right may end up costing me a little more in the long run, but not by much, and I'll be able so save up more money bye then and get a good card as well.

If you can afford it, get it. I chose th 3000+ because I know it overclocks extremely well (much past a 3200+) and is quite cheap.

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Yeah I can afford the 3200, after shipping it comes in just at what my limit is. I'd rather have the 3200+ be faster at stock speeds anyway, though I might overclock it in the future, I don't really need to now. WoW doesn't seem to like when I overclock anything anyways, which is why I have my processor set back to 2500+, and which is why I want a new processor .

That doesn't make sense to me. If you have the extra money for a 3200+ over a 3000+, you should really spend it on upgradablility

You can get a PCIE board for nearly just as cheap. I still think its a poor investment decision. A 6600GT in PCIE form will be cheaper than its AGP counterpart. Ahh well. Your entitled to make the decision.

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You can get a PCIE board for nearly just as cheap. I still think its a poor investment decision. A 6600GT in PCIE form will be cheaper than its AGP counterpart. Ahh well. Your entitled to make the decision.

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No it won't. 6600gt is sli ready in pcie so it's slightly more expensive. Most nvidia things are cheaper in agp. Get a 3200+ because the venice cores don't overclock madly at the lower end and weakly at the high end like the old a64 cores. Overclockability is the same pretty much over the board. You should still go with pcie though.

Oh, and I see from your sig that you have 1.5 gigs of ram, that doesn't do anything with an a64 and might actually make it worse. 1gig or 2 gig is the way to go. A64 doesn't like 3 slots taken up(which is what i assume you have) and the old cores don't like 4 slots taken up. Venice is alright with all 4.

At overclockers.co.uk
Cheapest 6600GT PCX - GB£104.95
Cheapest 6600GT AGP - GB£99.95
Ooooh. 5 quid. That really hurts my wallet. (Well actualy it does, but that's because I'm flat broke and not buying new hardware.)
Cheapest Abit (couldn't be bothered to go through every mfg) Mobo
PCX - GB£64.95
AGP - GB£62.95
An extra 2 quid. 7 quid. You are *****ing over 7 sodding quid? When you consider that when you upgrade next time round you'd have to buy both a mobo and card instead of just one or the other. That's saving you between 60 and 100 quid off the bat (if we go by these choices), but if you are sure you should go AGP....
seriously: don't make the same mistake I did

Oh, and darian, I didn't just hear you tell NGEmu's resident hardware guru how to run his PC did I?

One of NGEmu's hardware gurus**.

I dunno where he got the idea I was running 1.5 Gigs of memory. I felt my signature was pretty self explainatory. A month ago 6600GT PCI cards were cheaper than AGP counterparts due the complexity/price of adding the PCIE to AGP bridge chip that Nvidia developed.

Either way. Buying an AGP motherboard these days with the intention of upgrading your card in a year is a poor decision. You can sell the 6600GT AGP and come close to breaking even. And Then save yourself money in the long run. Plus you wont have to deal with the end of the road that is AGP.

^^^^

Look at Valcrist's sig

1.5 GB DDR @ 400mhz

blah, Its just gonna be HARD to sell this card, I don't really know anyone that'll buy it....it was a hassle to get rid of the 9500

But it would be the better decision in the longrun. I know its a stinky precarious situation. But you really cant argue the logistics of it. AGP is dying and Nvidia/ATI will only support it as long as they have too. Those Bridge chips arent cheap. You'd be doing yourself a diservice at this point.

Why do you want to upgrade anyway? Better wait until you must! (like when you get a game you can't run )