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Ok, finally I have decided to get a grip on some new machine.

My budjet is pretty limited so here are my options:

512MB DDR 400MHZ
Western Digital 40GB 7200 RPM with 8mb memory buffer.
ATI Radeon 9200SE 128bit 128MB DDR.

If you wanna me to change any of the above mentioned, then please do. Remember, I am kinda tight in the AGP card department, so suggest any that may fall in the same price line.

Besides this, I have three options for the processor/mobo:

Pentium IV 3.2GHz
Intel D-865 GBF

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AMD Athlon 64 3000+
VIA® K8M800 Chipset
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_detail.php?UID=621

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AMD Athlon XP 2800+
nVIDIA® nForce2
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_detail.php?UID=436

I am kinda inclined towards the AMD64 but the P4 is confusing me as well. Then there is the so awesome package of XP 2800+.

And my primary application for now will be games, games like:

Far Cry, Call of Duty, Half Life2, Doom3, Deus Ex2, etc.

I mean, I am not THAT graphics quality conscious, but all I want is a smooth framerate with some 800x600 or higher reso and some antialiasing. :p

Now, let the advices begin. Oh almost forgot. I am getting any one of these package for 600 US$. (a 17" monitor, optical mice and keyboard, etc included)

So what do you guys suggest?
 

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i would go for the A64 ;)
 

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NEVER buy an Intel board. :spy: The Athlon64 system is the fastest of the three, especially when it comes to CPU-intensive gaming (like those you listed). :)

That 9200SE (wait a sec.. the 9200se is 64-bit, not 128-bit) is pretty much crap, too. Don't expect to run any of those games you listed very well with it, with the exception of Call of Duty.
 

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Well, I was expecting a comment on that 9200. I am just not sure that which other budjet card can replace it. I mean, the other option I have is a 5200. And well, nothing else......
 
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if your primary reason is games, you'd be better of saving on processing power and invest the win on a better video card....
 

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How will I explain this to my dad? Hey, I am still not that independant you know :p
 

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AFA the AGP card is concerned, I think I can afford something of the range 60-70 US$.
In a way, I am asking if I should get a 9200 or the nvidia FX5200?
 

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i was asking for the whole budget cause sometimes you can find a deal in one area which can bump how much u can spend in another so its better to have all the facts :)
 

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Yeah. Go for a less expensive CPU and a more powerful videocard. Balance it out some. ;)
 

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Hmm. Ok, I'll list the whole things here:

AMD Athlon 64 2800+ = 225$ (165$ for Athlon Xp 2800+)
MSI K8M Neo V = 110$ (150$ for nforce 2 ultra chipset)
512MB DDR 400MHZ = 90$
ATI Radeon 9200 128bit = 55$ (or 60$ for Geforce fx5200)
Western Digital 40GB HDD= 60$
All other accessories including monitor = 125$

With a slash of a few bucks, I have to pay 625$ (in rupees).

And yes, 625$ is the most I can afford for the time being. So.
 

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well, the thing is none of those cards will run the games you want at 800x600 with some antialising (specially the 5200, everything runs like crap on it) , you HAVE to find a way to get a better card, either by lowering that processor or simply convincing your father of the wonders of a good video card. (mind-blowing school projects? :p )
 

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Mind blowing school projects? LOL.

Hmm. So what is next best price line. I mean, which AGP card should I consider, that can run those titles and isn't all that expensive either?
 

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You can get a better card Syed. Belive me, waiting is worth it. Hell I had to wait nearly 4 years before I got my Dream System :p
 

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(Hiya Razor, how'd you been?)

Well, waiting for a better card.......this means that I have to get SOMETHING for now. Like a FX5200 or a ATI9200.

The other option is, I can get a Radeon 9600 too. But is there a lot of difference between a 9600 and 9600 pro? The 5700 is beyond my reach.
 

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(Long time no see. Been good) :)

Well, I view it as you could get something now, but then you'll have to save the money you spent on a card plus the diffrence for the better card. Unless you sell it or something?

You could get a 9200 or something. And remember Christmas is around the corner :p So maybe if your family really loves you they can all pitch in on one gift? Like a 9600XT? (It's not a bank buster) Just throwing out some suggestions.

>>Far Cry, Call of Duty, Half Life2, Doom3, Deus Ex2, etc.

With a 9600 card you can play Doom 3 at Med/High quality at 800x600. :) Far Cry is almost as demanding (but not quite) and HL2 will run better on ATi cards. ;)
 

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You CAN afford a better video card (although I keep wondering why everyone keeps saying anti-aliasing is so great. I have a 5200, and I don't even mess with those settings, but it runs everything I need, including Halo) Just get the other stuff cheaper. (And cheaper doesn't mean it's not as good.

VERY GOOD MOTHERBOARD: http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductdesc.asp?description=13-127-166&depa=0

Now, that motherboard doesn't support athlon 64's, but at this point in time, do you really need one?

Now, after that you have a few choices. You can go for the tried and true 2500+ Barton (Mine hasn't let me down yet) here: http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-103-379&depa=1

Or you can go all the way up to an Athlon 3000+ (sorry, but a regular 3200+ seems to be beyond your budget) here: http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-103-381&depa=1

Which might leave you with enough room to get this FX5700: http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-150-049&depa=1

Now this IS kinda pricey, but you can get FX5700LE's starting at $90 at newegg. Now if I remember correctly, LE in nvidia talk is "Lite Edition" , meaning features removed, or it's underclocked, or whatnot, but a 5700LE probably still kicks a 5200 out the door.

Here's a decent 5700LE: http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-145-078&depa=1

Moral of this story: shop around. That motherboard I recommended is one of THE BEST motherboards out there today. I know a few people in these forums have one, and I intend to get on one of these days. And it's dirt cheap. Also, unless you are a REALLY big fan of anti-aliasing, a 5200 or a 5500 will get you where you need to be. DO NOT get a 9200SE though. And in all honesty, if you are a decent overclocker, go with the 2500+ Barton. I've heard alot of people say they can be overclocked to a 3200+ STABLE on just air cooling. One of the lessons I've learned, just because you CAN get the best, doesn't mean you have to. I just basically built you a much cheaper system that will do EVERYTHING you need it to do.

Oh, and a side note. I believe the 2500+ only requires DDR 333 ram, so you can get some Corsair ram here for a bit cheaper: http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-145-407&depa=1

And finally, a shameless plug :D I just bought this DVD-burner (wating for it to get here) for only $65, you get a free 5pk of dvd's with it, and it comes with the full version of nero, and power DVD5, and it supports dual layer. http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-145-407&depa=1

That would complement your new system nicely, if your looking for one.

I'll leave the harddrive up to you ;)
 

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Hrrmm. 9200se equals crap. If I were you I would buy a better Video card than that. Uhm 5700LE is NOT decent. Get a ATI 9600 pro/XT or GeForce 5700 Ultra.
 

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Hmm, now I was checkinh some benchmark results and now I am thinking about the Geforce 4 Ti4200. I can manage to get a ti4200, what do you guys say?
 
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