May I know why my thread got locked and why I was Trolled by an admins

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Sonic2036

Discussion Starter · Aug 4, 2009

Just by looking at the rules:

http://forums.ngemu.com/751350-post2.html

I can't find any thing illegible about my post.
and I find that I was Trolled and harrassed by an admins and other memmbers..

Checking the rule:

Harassment / Flaming Policy

All forms of harassment are not permitted. Deliberately insulting or flaming other NGEmu board members is also prohibited. This policy applies to private messages as well as public forum posts.

I don't know if what that admins posted wasn't Trolling but I think its insulting... I was just looking for an answer , "if some one made an XBOX360 emulator that decreases the graphics of the main game while emulating and makes its speed at least 60-50%? if yes or no then prove" that was the question and I can't find any thing in this thread that is illegible and I can't find why I deserve to be Trolled and harassed by regular members and admins.

if I did any thing wrong that is against the rules in that post , feel free to post.

and here is the thread : http://forums.ngemu.com/open-discussion/125622-xbox360-emulator-windows-could-possiable.html

admins and members like this makes me want to leave this forum...
I joined this forum a week ago so please chill on me... honestly...
Just becuase that admins though that thread was stupid or he/she didn't like it , doesn't mean he/she have the right to lock it.

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zidine00

· #2 · Aug 4, 2009

Check that your question isn't already answered. 90% of questions already are. Emuforums has a search and FAQ system to make this easier.

the only thing new was the graphics reduction in your post, and since if you read up on some of the other 360 threads, you may have seen its not possible, to emulate the 360 at this time, at all it was meaningless.

anyway id like to add, we have had alot people asking about 360 emulation, or asking someone to make it, to many times in the past, and we may have got a little bit annoyed with seeing the same questiong again.

so id like to appologise for not being paitent enougth dude.

and sorry if this post sounds in any way harrasng.

Sonic2036

Discussion Starter · #3 · Aug 4, 2009 (Edited)

zidine00 said:
the only thing new was the graphics reduction in your post, and since if you read up on some of the other 360 threads, you may have seen its not possible, to emulate the 360 at this time, at all.

anyway id like to add, weve had people asking about 360 emulation, or asking someone to make it, to many times in the past, and we may have got a little bit annoyed with seeing it again/

so id like to appologise for not being paitent enougth dude.

and sorry if this post sounds in any way harrasng.

I wasn't asking for emulation or suggesting -_-
I was saying if some one does that trick do you think it would work to emulate xbox360 on PC? I wasn't asking for some one to create one -_-

that was a Disscussion.

I will check the search function once again....

at any ways some one could nicely say : "Please this is against the rules , Don't ask for any XBOX360 Emulator for PC. Thanks" rather than say
"OH STUPID THREAD - Locked"

and it wasn't really you.

it was Cheesus and Chrono Archangel.

its meant to be a discussion not a request. its "do you think?" not "Can some one please make?"

I am not planing to be harsh here... All I am asking from admins and memmbers to be pitty.

to disscuss , like I ask some one : "Do you think we can get up on 7 if we sleep at 5 oclock?" then some one just say "no kbye"

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zidine00

· #4 · Aug 4, 2009

your post came of to me, and im sure it did others in that sence, in that case it was a misunderstanding.

and lets just say, that trick would not work, well it would work, if it was even possible to achieve, but the preformance gain would be somewhat small compaired to the requirements of the emulator itself that is ofcourse that someone was even able to make 360 emulation at this present time, due to the lack of documentation.

Sonic2036

Discussion Starter · #5 · Aug 4, 2009

zidine00 said:
your post came of to me, and im sure it did others in that sence, in that case it was a misunderstanding.

and lets just say, that trick would not work, well it would work, if it was even possible to achieve, but the preformance gain would be somewhat small compaired to the requirements of the emulator itself that is ofcourse that someone was even able to make 360 emulation at this present time, due to the lack of documentation.

I have the answer now...I guess we will have wait . but atm , we are off topic. :[

zidine00

· #6 · Aug 4, 2009

I have to add its general forum etiqute (sp?) to resolve these matters with the mods in pm, otherwise it seems you are trying to goad them into an argument.

Paratech

· #7 · Aug 4, 2009

Emulating systems isn't an easy job, PS2 emulation is still in its infancy, and it wasn't long ago that Playstation emulation wasn't as accurate as it currently is.

Emulation authors are ingenious people, very intelligent, innovative, clever, and talented. I admire them for their skill, but no matter how talented people are however, the 360 is a very complicated console and will be very challenging to emulate.

You do know the XBOX is far from emulated perfectly, right? and that even the N64 isn't emulated perfectly, and that there are games that don't run well on Nintendo 64 emulators.

Programmers are just working on N64, Playstation 2, and Dreamcast emulation and it will be years before they are as accurate as Playstation emulation, heck Super Nintendo emulation is a Work in Progress, so I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for XBOX 360 emulation.

PsyMan

· #8 · Aug 4, 2009

Sonic2036 said:
Just by looking at the rules:

http://forums.ngemu.com/751350-post2.html

I can't find any thing illegible about my post.
and I find that I was Trolled and harrassed by an admins and other memmbers..

Checking the rule:

Harassment / Flaming Policy

All forms of harassment are not permitted. Deliberately insulting or flaming other NGEmu board members is also prohibited. This policy applies to private messages as well as public forum posts.

I don't know if what that admins posted wasn't Trolling but I think its insulting... I was just looking for an answer , "if some one made an XBOX360 emulator that decreases the graphics of the main game while emulating and makes its speed at least 60-50%? if yes or no then prove" that was the question and I can't find any thing in this thread that is illegible and I can't find why I deserve to be Trolled and harassed by regular members and admins.

if I did any thing wrong that is against the rules in that post , feel free to post.

and here is the thread : http://forums.ngemu.com/open-discussion/125622-xbox360-emulator-windows-could-possiable.html

admins and members like this makes me want to leave this forum...
I joined this forum a week ago so please chill on me... honestly...
Just becuase that admins though that thread was stupid or he/she didn't like it , doesn't mean he/she have the right to lock it.

I could explain with some relative detail what makes the things you're asking impossible for at least the next few years. The problem is that you lack the knowledge to understand all that (if you had that knowledge you would not ask anyway) so I'll keep it simple and brief.

1. There is not enough documentation to even make an emulator able to run 360 software.

2. Decreasing the GFX quality will not speed up the emulator or make it more compatible unless you have a very weak GPU.

3. Even if there was enough documentation today's PCs are simply not fast enough to emulate all the processors and chips of the 360 at acceptable speed. GFX quality again has nothing to do with it.

4. Even if there was enough documentation and someone eventually made a 360 emulator the speeds would be insanely slow (about 1%, maybe even less) due to the reasons mentioned above.

Proto

· #9 · Aug 4, 2009

Without getting offtopic (no, this is not the XBOX emulation thread mind you, that one was closed), I kind of agree with your standpoint that both the members that replied to you and Chrono probably weren't in the best of moods and lacked the internet etiquette that one would have expected from NGemu. But in any case, this is not something to be discussed in a public thread.Take this to a PM with Chrono himself, or to another admin if you feel he's being partial to you. Otherwise you can guarantee that this thread will be closed, as public discussions of admin decisions are against the rules.

Sonic2036

Discussion Starter · #10 · Aug 4, 2009 (Edited)

PsyMan , Thanks for the info what I wanted all a long and could have been posted and let me know more about it... the reason i put this in public to spread the request... and next thing i was going to ask (idk some one who said the PS3 Emulation could happen) who was made first ps3 or xbox360? that was going to be a more discussion but it just got locked.

I am not trying to offend or insult them (admins and members) or any thing , I am just saying please stop being so harsh on me , all i wanted is an answer not just "You are Stupid as this topic is also stupid" i mean come on why not just say some thing useful , and as a first post in the topic ?.

Proto said:
Without getting offtopic (no, this is not the XBOX emulation thread mind you, that one was closed), I kind of agree with your standpoint that both the members that replied to you and Chrono probably weren't in the best of moods and lacked the internet etiquette that one would have expected from NGemu. But in any case, this is not something to be discussed in a public thread.Take this to a PM with Chrono himself, or to another admin if you feel he's being partial to you. Otherwise you can guarantee that this thread will be closed, as public discussions of admin decisions are against the rules.

I didn't know that as I said , I just joined 1 week ago
in any forum we are not allowed to pm admins lol... just I don't mean any thing bad or hurt any admins by any words.
I am new here , I am sorry I never saw any rule that is... admins , just take the message and lock this if you want.

Proto

· #11 · Aug 4, 2009

in any forum we are not allowed to pm admins lol... just I don't mean any thing bad or hurt any admins by any words.

Well that is kind of a lousy PR strategy if you ask me. Completely killing communication between the admins and the community is probably one of the best ways of eventually getting the community against you and killing your own forum. (maybe it only referred to a restriction on non-admin work related PM's?)

Sonic2036

Discussion Starter · #12 · Aug 4, 2009

Well , in that forum its more focused on a game
its a forum based on a fan-made game. so not lots of people focus on those things. lol

emwearz

· #13 · Aug 5, 2009

Answer to your question.

No its not possible at the moment, wait 10 odd years. The problem is not speed, the problem is the system itself is not emulated (Read up on emulation).

If I was them I would have closed the thread too, if you dont know what your talking about, take the answers given to you by people who have more knowledge on the subject. Many people would feel its pointless explaining the detailed reasons of why and gave you a simple answer. No.

Sonic2036

Discussion Starter · #14 · Aug 5, 2009

I was asking for an info -_-
Learning from why that can't happen and such.
but aside of that , like 3 users were rude to me (including admins)
and I don't find that against the rules (my post). srry I don't like "You are stupid , LOCKED!"

They didn't even say any reasons for locking. and I know what I am talking about and every one understand... if they keep saying no and just no then its considered spam in order to increase their post counts possibility. and other nice people replied to me and I was going to discuss that with some one else.

ASIDE all of that , that Thread is NOT AGAINST The rules= SHOULD never been locked.
the forum rules are on my side , Trolling is not allowed here.

Proto

· #15 · Aug 5, 2009

As I told you: Yes, from my POV you are right, and probably a generic thread about members, admins and internet etiquette would be viable in the feedback forum, but take your personal case to PM.

DaStinger77

· #16 · Aug 5, 2009

Remember the 10x rule for emulation and then do the math on what it would take to emulate the 360. I believe (without looking up specs) its a 3Ghz dual or quad core. So going on the basis of dual you would need a 30Ghz dual core CPU or a 3Ghz CPU with 20 cores.

The theory obviously isn't anywhere near exact but provides a good baseline.

Squall-Leonhart

· #17 · Aug 5, 2009 (Edited)

emwearz said:
Answer to your question.

No its not possible at the moment, wait 10 odd years. The problem is not just speed, but also that the system itself is not emulated (Read up on emulation).

If I was them I would have closed the thread too, if you dont know what your talking about, take the answers given to you by people who have more knowledge on the subject. Many people would feel its pointless explaining the detailed reasons of why and gave you a simple answer. No.

minor correction, since part of the problem IS speed.

Proto said:
As I told you: Yes, from my POV you are right, and probably a generic thread about members, admins and internet etiquette would be viable in the feedback forum, but take your personal case to PM.

They were just getting in before i posted.

...so now i don't have to flame and maim.

DaStinger77 said:
Remember the 10x rule for emulation and then do the math on what it would take to emulate the 360. I believe (without looking up specs) its a 3Ghz dual or quad core. So going on the basis of dual you would need a 30Ghz dual core CPU or a 3Ghz CPU with 20 cores.

The theory obviously isn't anywhere near exact but provides a good baseline.

the 10x rule is a overhyped myth.

Cid Highwind

· #18 · Aug 5, 2009

Just send Chrono a PM, he's a cool, level headed guy normally. I'm sorry your thread had to end like that, as it was kinda inappropriate. Members here should get off their throne and accept that people sign up here not to get flamed for ignorance, but that they are here to learn the things that we as regulars have learned a long time ago. Some people complain that the forums aren't what they used to be, well, here you have one of the reasons. That kind of behavior is what sends out the wrong signal to new members and what makes them turn into all-knowing pricks as well, and eventually get the same attitude of "us versus the newbies".

@ Squall: The 10x rule is just a rule of thumb that has been confirmed more or less a few times:
PSX needing roughly a 300MHz PC to run playable
PS2 needing >3GHZ CPU to be playable (okay, dual core, so perhaps 20

)
Dreamcast needing a 2GHz PC to be playable (again dual core)
N64 needing a 600MHz PC to work

Squall-Leonhart

· #19 · Aug 5, 2009

It hasn't been confirmed

continuing to believe it, and profess it is just substantiating the myth that MHZ = PERFORMANCE.

Cid Highwind

· #20 · Aug 5, 2009

MHz = performance if you compare the same architectures. You just can't translate different types of chips with each other as performance per clock differs. Anyway, what I meant is that it's a good rule of thumb to keep in mind, just how your parents most likely satisfied your interest about your birth with saying that it came from your parents loving each other, rather than explaining the details about which position lead to it and what the velocity of your pre-birth state was at that moment

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