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MY 2nd rig (Tualatin Celeron 1.2 @ 1.7) with an MSI FX 5200 runs HL-2 great too @ Directx 8 codepath, high models/textures, high shader detail, 1024x768.

HL-2 was coded very very well and works with just about all + or - 4 year old hardware. :)
 

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Uh yes, but the DX9 codepath is so slow on the GeForce FX series that it totally makes the game almost unplayable.. not to mention how the FX's DX9 capability isn't even detected by HL-2 until you make a change to the internals of the game.

I also don't think you can comprehend what I'm saying. :p
 

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sonicjam said:
well it runs normal on the game no slow down dude
That's because it's running in the DirectX 8 codepath by default on GeForceFX cards.. :hdbash:

In the console type "mat_dxlevel 9" without quotes and compare speed to how it was before you made that change.

And btw, what is that horrible looking thing in your avatar? :???:
 

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Actually, a Tualatin 1.2 would tear a 1.7 P4 up, if it's a Williamette. Especially in FP intensive apps, such as games.

But I still doubt you're getting 50FPS in Doom III. A P4 1.7 with a 9500 Pro would run Doom III faster than a Tually and a GeForceFX 5200, and I-Chan's not getting that kind of speed.
 

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Yep.. less pipelines = more IPC (instructions per clock cycle). Netburst has deep pipelines (21 stage on Northwood, 31 stage on Prescott, as opposed to 12 on the Tualatin and Athlon XP/64s), to achieve higher clock speeds. Another side-effect of longer pipelines is that you need a good amount of cache to keep the core from "stalling" due to insufficient cache memory for the CPU when it's working its little heart off (Williamette had 256KB aswell as Tualatin.. do the math ;)). Deep pipelines mean the CPU often gets ahead of itself and requires alot of fast cache. I overclocked my Tualatin 1.2 to 1.8 completely stable, and I was benching higher than a 2GHz Williamette in all game/synthetic tests with the exception of Quake III, obviously. At stock it was still scoring higher than any Willie in the 1.3-1.7GHz range. Now XxCrashxX, if your CPU is a Northwood, I really doubt a Tualatin would outperform it.

Things have changed with Northwood though, the 512KB L2 Cache really helps Netburst thrive. The 1MB on the Prescotts is even better for it, but the cache is significantly higher latency than the cache on northwoods, which requires a hefty (3.6GHzish) clock speed to really achieve amazing performance with Prescott.

I really love my 3.2C.. got it for $55 instead of $275 which is what Newegg asks.. worth every penny. :p If I didn't have this deal, I would have definitely went the A64 route, which is what I recommend for anybody purchasing a new CPU.

Oh, and makotech, the 5500 is nothing more than a 5200 with a slight clock increase (275MHz as opposed to 250 of a 5200)..
 

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XxCrashxX said:
cooliscool you make my brain hurt

well I think I have a grasp on it

so where exactly did you come upon this info, just various websites, or technical training
Years and years of being into computers and really having a knack for technical info.. basically I read alot, and have alot of experience with these things.

Not to toot my own horn of course, but beep beep! :p
 
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