Agreed.
Btw, these writings are almost terrorism
Yes, i AM a terrorist :evil:
Btw, these writings are almost terrorism
Yes, i AM a terrorist :evil:
You don't happen to be from the netherlands right? :lol:Cid Highwind said:I agree as well![]()
Maybe because you think that you've the right to choose when the time has come, instead of letting nature make the choice for you.エッリー said:How do you know that giving your life up when the time has not come will make you rest in peace ?
I am not speaking about choice ( which you seem so touchy about ). I am talking about you when you "choose" to end up your life ( can we say "prematually" ?). How do you know that you will be resting in peace after that choice ?Boltzmann said:Maybe because you think that you've the right to choose when the time has come, instead of letting nature make the choice.
What if you don't believe that's anything after life? Then this concern is completely ungrounded.エッリー said:I am not speaking about choice ( which you seem so touchy about ). I am talking about you when you "choose" to end up your life ( can we say "prematually" ?). How do you know that you will be resting in peace after that choice ?
You don't. Basically it is an act of fear for what you don't know. "If I don't wake up in <insert time period in here> then...". It doesn't mean that the person will never ever wake up (and vice-versa), it just means that he/she isn't willing to endure a comma with the expectation that perhaps he/she may or may not recover someday. It's a reckless move but in all truth it's their choice. I would like to believe we are free, if they think they can not endure such a situation or if they don't want to be a liability or constant pain to their loved beings then it's their choice.エッリー said:How do you know that giving your life up when the time has not come will make you rest in peace ?
And why are you assuming that there is an after life? I wasn't hinting at that at all. I was just wondering why the hell do people pre-assume many things about death whether they are atheists , theists , or whats not when they don't know.Boltzmann said:What if you don't believe that's anything after life? Then this concern is completely ungrounded.
For me, and all other thousands of atheists, materialists, this life is the real deal, and your only chance. There's no concern about "resting" afterwards, since there's no "afterwards" for the person in question (the person ceases to exist as soon as brain death takes place; you are your brain).
The author use of the expression "rest in peace" is more of a poetic license. Don't take it literally.
I am not gonna argue about the freedom of choice. I find the concept of choosing between life and death to be ridiculous, but part of me sometimes doesn't care. Hopeless cases are hopeless, even if you restrain them , they want to end their miserable excuse of a life.......meh. They're like what you said earlier on,...living dead.Kaiser Sigma said:One thing is not wanting to live anymore because you are a weakling and another is because you are placed on a situation where you can't do anything to improve the situation... they are somehow dead in life so I don't particularly see how this could be wrong. I do not like the overly petulant tone of Forman talking about politicians and the rest as if they were below him but I do reckon that under such circumstances it's his choice whether he wants to remain like a vegetal forever or not.
Careful, I'm not talking about the low quality humans who want to commit suicide just because life is too much for them. Just talking about those who go into a state of uncertainty for the rest of their lives... suicide ppl can do something about their lives but these ppl can't. It really is something beyond them...エッリー said:I am not gonna argue about the freedom of choice. I find the concept of choosing between life and death to be ridiculous, but part of me sometimes doesn't care. Hopeless cases are hopeless, even if you restrain them , they want to end their miserable excuse of a life.......meh. They're like what you said earlier on,...living dead.
As someone who has thought about suicide I am entitled to my ignorance and dumb arrogance .Eface said:As someone who has thought about suicide, i am always shocked about how people think about it, about their ignorance and about their dumb arrogance.
Unless you have concrete evidence that you are a power on the Universe whose purpose is order you are a nobody to tell who deserves what and not qualified to do so anymore than I am.Eface said:Those people deserve a painfull death over and over again. Maybe then they'll understand what they wish upon others.
Kaiser's ego didn't quite match mine. Guess his ego was small after allKaiser Sigma said:As someone who has thought about suicide I am entitled to my ignorance and dumb arrogance .
Unless you have concrete evidence that you are a power on the Universe whose purpose is order you are a nobody to tell who deserves what and not qualified to do so anymore than I am.
Yeah, but like teh Kaiser said, we want to argue :evil:The Captain said:Can't we all agree on this point?
Actually it is not a joke. The only reason why I thought of death was because I was a sore loser and a weakling who couldn't live with all the crap going on. My ego wasn't smaller than yours, I didn't have any to start with. Fortunately, I proved to be strong enough to evolve and overcome my depressive barriers.Eface said:Kaiser's ego didn't quite match mine. Guess his ego was small after allj/k
bold mineKaiser Sigma said:Careful, I'm not talking about the low quality humans who want to commit suicide just because life is too much for them.