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Why was my thread posted about ps2 linux iso locked? linux is freely distributed and there are versions which are compatible with the ps/2 if you have a modded playstation you can use the burned cd for installing, anyhow I do not consider anything in that linked to piracy. I just hadnt had time to respond to my own thread in defense of it. As i have been gone for a few days.

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Kaneda's post "trying to find? linux iso? ISO??" (naughty face smiley)
in response to you i did find what i was looking for and it was totally legit, i was having troubles googling for a ps/2 processor compatible version.
All downloadable linux'es come in iso format unless you want to do alot of work and make your own.

i request an aplogy to thoose who instantly went to the piration conversation.
 

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i see, i didnt even think about that. Im talking about what i think was rhino linux that has a ps/2 port, i never got to test it out but i may try building an iso of that and booting it with the ps/2emu and see if it can boot tho i be kinda busy lately.

If you were infering that i was referring to the ps/2 dev kit this was a mistake, as i have not even looked into it. That is not what i was after. Only a linux distribution compatible with ps/2. Then i take back what i said above.

i made an edit above the name was rhino ( for some reason rawhide word was in my mind after reading somthing)
 

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so we are sorry, you could write that you don't want sonys linux for ps2...

BTW. I'm looking forward for your results with booting other distribution on PS2 :) when you will do it don't forget to write about it here
 

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Thats cool man, i understand now what you meant i will post what i find out when i get around to doing this.
 

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There is only one legal linux port. Officially licensed and SOLD by SCEA (SONY of America). http://playstation2-linux.com/ Thus not free to distribute over the internet like regular linux. People who buy this version of linux have to agree to various legal terms and conditions, not to distribute it and the SDK documents.

If there are any other ports, they would be deemed illegal. Why?

  • Not officially endorsed / licensed to run on PS2 software.
  • Requires a modchip to run it, instantly deeming it as warez / grey area.
  • Would of been illegally ported with less than 'legal' methods.
  • Gives un-regulated / un-licensed access to the PS2's internal HW, which in SONY's book means you're in trouble.
As such it would not be prudent to discuss this 'running of linux' on these forums.
 

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It's called BlackRhino, based on Debian, created by a Sony-certified PS2 middleware provider...

CKemu,

sorry, but I'm quite sure you're wrong. BlackRhino Linux was even announced on Sony's official PS2 Linux homepage a while ago. And, believe it or not, you are allowed to redistribute Sony's PS2 Linux, Sony can't do anything to prevent you from doing so. Read the GPL (redistribution is allowed under the GPL, any additional license requirements are illegal). But Sony included a HAL, that one's closed source, as well as some docs and parts of the SDK on the DVD, but if you rip those parts, you _are_ allowed to distribute the remaining, OSS parts of the kit. Besides, it does not matter if the distro needs a modchip to work, that won't make BlackRhino any less legal (XBox Linux is perfectly legal even if you need a modchip or exploit to make it work). Doesn't matter, you'll need the official Linux kit to boot BlackRhino anyway, but anyone's free to download and mess with BlackRhino, even if you don't own the Linux kit (you won't get it to boot, but you get a nice frisbee).

BlackRhino was ported/ created using Sony's very own Linux kit, plus documentation freely available on the net and some reverse engineering (rev-eng is legal for interoperability purposes). And it's even available from Sony's PS2 Linux homepage:

http://playstation2-linux.com/projects/blackrhino/
http://blackrhino.xrhino.com/main.php?page=home

No offense, but please get your facts straight before making such claims, it's not that hard...
 

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....Doesn't matter, you'll need the official Linux kit to boot BlackRhino anyway, but anyone's free to download and mess with BlackRhino, even if you don't own the Linux kit (you won't get it to boot, but you get a nice frisbee)...
Bingo, and he is talking about making it work under PCSX2, which would require (in your own words) the official SONY linux distribution.

Modding a console is illegal in the US afaik, and pretty grey elsewhere as it allows you to run 'copies' and regions that your console was not intented to run.

Even if he did aquire the BlackRhino version of linuz, it would be pointless to attempt to run it under PCSX2, as again you would need the official kit.

My apologies about being none to specific with all the details, but given that the subject of blackrhino was a mute point to start with, (simply because you _NEED_ the official kit to boot it), I think my post still stands its ground.

Also note that given this forum mainly deals with people between the ages of 15-20, it is far wiser to be blunt, rather than discuss the legalities of reverse engineering, and other development issues, esp when it comes to SDKs and modchips, threads like this often descent into un-mitagated warez fests.
 

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OK, I get what you mean. Still, I think it would be better to explain that, while everyone's free to download the ISO (BlackRhino or Sony PS2 Linux disc 2 - not of the HAL, Linux kit disc 1), noone will be able to use it for technical reasons? Anyway, you're right that zero tolerance regarding piracy is a necessity for this forum, the emulation scene already has a bad enough image in that regard...

Whatever, if anyone wants the ISO, get it from the links I posted, and remember - all you can do with the ISO's to show your friends how l33t you are...!
 

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Anyhow here was the original idea, the base image of black rhino linux is available for download, i wanted to try to make a bootable disk image (iso) for running with pcsx2, now linux is a free operating system under GPL and you can legally download all the components if you want to. Anyhow this thread may as well be closed now since everyones point was made.\
After reading his post, ther is an iso already made of it? If so link me as long as its totally legit version. Also im sure you can boot pcsx2 with a linux disk image as long as it has all the correct components boot sector, kernel, and some base files to make it load into a console. Tho without the usb keyboard driver and what not you cant really do anything with it in specific other than show that it can be done.
 

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That's not how the Linux kit works I'm afraid. According to some info on the web, Linux on the PS2 works like this:

- Boot the PS2 and insert Linux kit disc 1 (this one is proprietary)
- The software on that disc initializes the HDD and allows you to install Linux from disc 2
- AFAIU, a special bootloader gets installed on the HDD and a kernel image is copied to a memory card
- Then you are able to boot Linux (I'd think it's a two-stage loader, with stage 1 on the kit's disc 1 and and stage 2 on the HDD...)
- The bootloader loads and executes the kernel from the memory card
- Now that your basic Linux system is up and running, you can change the distro using one of the images available (BlackRhino, gentoo)

So, the kit's disc 2 is only a local repository, probably a base system image in tgz format plus several RPM's with optional software, it won't boot on it's own... I did expect someone to provided an ISO, but the base images are always in tgz format and additional software is installed over the net (APT/ Portage/ manual RPM downloads). Seems to be impossible to create an image/ ISO booting straight into Linux like Knoppix...
 
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