sorry guys, but i'm a law student and i feel obliged to comment here. maybe this'll get me banned from the forum as i've already been reprimanded for my question about an iso i downloaded, as that apparently falls under the "asking for warez" rule on the forum rules? the rule is none of my business; it's up to you what you want discussed on your forum. but in this thread, you guys are spreading false information and bad law as a justification for that rule, and that's why i have to say something.
Anyway, and to show you that we just follow our own rules, the one that you missed:
If you post in a forum for support and you are found to be in possession of illegal content, your thread will be immediately closed.
downloading games for which you already own the rights is at worse a legal grey area in the united states.
While d/l might be in a grey area, what sure is forbidden is to share your game. Giving support for people found to be in possesion of d/l material can be seen as encouraging people to d/l it. And that's promoting the activity of sharing games, wich we of course don't want to.
in my case, i purchased ff7 for the PC and found that it didn't support my video card and that it lacked mouse support. it sounds like crap and won't go any higher than 640x480/16. thusly owning the consumer rights to the work that is ff7, i downloaded the psx iso of it along with espxe to enjoy my game at a higher resolution and with better sound quality. while the laws of the united states don't specifically allow for what i did, they don't specifically prohibit it, either. and it's consistent with the fair use doctrine from landmark rulings such as Sony Corp. of Am. v. Universal City Studios, in which universal (rather ironically) sued sony to keep the betamax vcr off the market.
And i could argue that you bought the right to play the pc version of the game, wich is not exactly the same as the psx one. If i buy a DVD movie, and then a director's cut version is released, am i allowed to get it for free? I don't think so.
someone said "it's not a copy of your game, it's a copy of someone else's." this is just wrong, whichever side of the IP debate you're on. look at what valve software is doing with the steam system and you'll see why this is nonsense. when you buy computer-related IP, you're not buying the physical disk, or the code on the disk. you're buying a licensce to use the information in certain limited ways. making one backup copy of it for your personal use is ALWAYS included in this licensce. no statue or court in the US has ever once suggested otherwise.
Yes, to use the information contained on your
disk. And as i said, even if d/l is still a grey area, putting your iso available for download is not - you simply can't, no one licensed you the right to redistribute it. Look around the boards. We encourage people to do their own backups from their original discs. Downloading an ISO is harder and needs more time than doing your backup, so why would anyone want to d/l a game if he already has it?
if you cleaned up your approach a bit and removed the blatant factual errors, you guys could make a compelling legal argument against what i just said in court, and you might win. you might not. but if you're that far on the side of the intellectual propertyrighters, one wonders why you're in the emulation business at all?
nothing personal, but i had to set the record straight.
We are in the emulation business because we love videogames, and we love consoles. Piracy harms the videogame business, so it's no wonder we want to stay on this side of the line.
I own both NES (famicom), Mega Drive (Genesis), SNES (Super Famicom), N64 and psx systems, and i still love many of their games, but i don't want them to be sitting around next to me in order to play them. Emulation gives the perfect solution, and that's why i'm interested on it. You see, emulation can be perfectly legal. Ok, as Kane said, i can't care less about people d/l games and such, but we don't want that be a disctinctive feature of ngemu. We will remain legal, and the rules will keep the same spirit even if they are rewritten anytime, so there's no point on discussing it.