Is playing video games about having fun anymore?

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Paratech

Discussion Starter · Aug 24, 2009

I have to admit, after playing Left 4 Dead for a while and perusing the Left 4 Dead and Left 4 Dead 2 forums that I'm left scratching my head a bit.

On one hand there's a lot of elitism, many gamers seem bent on kickbanning gamers for nearly and reason off public servers, which IMSHO is a bit wrong, after all, gamers paid to be able to play the game online, if they can't have fun playing the game online because some jerks want to hoard the servers for their friends, why should they support the game.

On the other hand there seem to be gamers hellbent on being nuisances, spamming the microphone, running music at the same time, etc, killing members of their party, you wonder why people want to play the game.

Still when gamers are just playing the game and trying to learn the ropes, I see no reason to kick/ban them from public servers, everyone has paid money to play the game online, and unless they are really being jerks, they have a right to play the game as anyone else.

Will this be the future, that a few gamers will dictate who can and cannot play online games? That if you aren't "leet" enough you will not be able to play online?

I just see a bad trend from games like Left 4 Dead that seem to bring out the worst in gamers and I don't like where it's headed. I like playing games to have fun, not to be in an elite circle of jerks who want to be in a perpetual pissing contest.

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zidine00

· #2 · Aug 24, 2009

yeh, ive been thinking this for a while now actually (most multiplayer games lately), hence why ive been sticking to single player, which is somehow mildly getting forgorten (aka, not worked on enougth and increadably short, compaired to the multiplayer witch is constantly getting updated, and new maps added changed edited, well you name it im just rather bitter at the lack of at least 10 hours of single player in some of the more newer fps type games (a example for this is halo 3 and 2 (my oppinion, not starting a halo war here)).

but ive gone off in a bit of a rant now.

Spyhop

· #3 · Aug 24, 2009

The problem with multiplayer is, well, many people are ****s. Yet, I find far too much importance is placed on multiplayer games. I still play multi once in awhile, but the most fun I have with games are with single player games with great stories.

Thanakil

· #4 · Aug 24, 2009

Paratech said:
I just see a bad trend from games like Left 4 Dead that seem to bring out the worst in gamers and I don't like where it's headed. I like playing games to have fun, not to be in an elite circle of jerks who want to be in a perpetual pissing contest.

That's why I prefer playing with friends or simply people I know are fun to play with. Keep a tab of who isn't a total retard online, add them to your friend list, try to play with them as much as possible.

Or sometimes, simply find a good server. Some servers are hosted for one website/forum in particular, and those can be really great sometime.

N1ghtw0lf

· #5 · Aug 24, 2009

it's why i think splitscreen coop is making a comeback and weirdly enough i really hope it is. There is nothing more fun than me and 3 friends sitting down and playing halo 3... whether we win or lose we ALWAYS have fun... I like some new xbox live arcade games like Splosion Man (yea i'm a nerd) and castle crashers... pc-wise i mainly play multiplayer over lan anyways. I dunno, just not enough friendly people out there to constitute my attention without my friends being with me.

Densetsu

· #6 · Aug 24, 2009

The elitism is present everywhere. There's no real way to fight it, because most of the people you mentioned are kids, and they do stupid things because they think it's fun. None of them will think twice about their actions and how they affect other people. Developers won't ban them or take any course of action because they are their main source of profit.

The only way to avoid them is to set up a server with your online (or real life) buddies and have fun. That way you can be 99% sure that noone will run music, scream like a moron into the microphone or kick/ban you for no reason at all.

And as N1ghtw0lf said, there's also splitscreen. But that only works if you have a huge TV and a couple of buddies who are willing to come over and play games with you whenever you invite them.

Xblade

· #7 · Aug 24, 2009

Densetsu said:
The elitism is present everywhere. There's no real way to fight it, because most of the people you mentioned are kids, and they do stupid things because they think it's fun. None of them will think twice about their actions and how they affect other people. Developers won't ban them or take any course of action because they are their main source of profit.

The only way to avoid them is to set up a server with your online (or real life) buddies and have fun. That way you can be 99% sure that noone will run music, scream like a moron into the microphone or kick/ban you for no reason at all.

And as N1ghtw0lf said, there's also splitscreen. But that only works if you have a huge TV and a couple of buddies who are willing to come over and play games with you whenever you invite them.

I wish I could see some of the people in those online games right in front of me.

They would most certainly eat a can of stfu just from looking at my height.
Then would come the verbal pawnage and intimidation. :evil:

zidine00

· #8 · Aug 24, 2009

or, i do not like to suggest this, sometimes there are a few decent clans in this regard who accept everyone, and remove those who bad mouth other people, generally you could find one of those and play with the people there, but generally those are really hard to find, and dont last long.

Spyhop

· #9 · Aug 24, 2009

You don't see nearly as much of that kind of behavior in PC gaming, where you run the risk of consequences on private servers.

zidine00

· #10 · Aug 24, 2009

oh i thought he was talking about pc gaming, hence left for dead. unless theres a console version, but i dont keep up with them much.

true its more commonly found in console gaming but it is still present in pc gaming.

Xblade

· #11 · Aug 24, 2009

Elitism is sickening.

Though I do wish I could kick out the person on my team with 3 kills and 25 deaths in call of duty 5 sometimes.

Heading straight into online mode in a genre your not familiar with is a good enough reason to get kicked.

makotech222

· #12 · Aug 24, 2009

this is a good topic. I Rarely play MMOs and Online games anymore, simply because its just not fun at all. I find myself playing games mostly for the story now, and Online games have no stories, lol. RPGs are getting boring with the usual /burn village, youth gets revenge and saves world/ stories. Im slowly weening off my addiction to gaming.

Xblade

· #13 · Aug 24, 2009

makotech222 said:
this is a good topic. I Rarely play MMOs and Online games anymore, simply because its just not fun at all. I find myself playing games mostly for the story now, and Online games have no stories, lol. RPGs are getting boring with the usual /burn village, youth gets revenge and saves world/ stories. Im slowly weening off my addiction to gaming.

There is a difference between an addiction and a hobby...........

makotech222

· #14 · Aug 24, 2009

i consider myself addicted. it caused my poor grades in my first year of college.

Densetsu

· #15 · Aug 24, 2009 (Edited by Moderator)

I also forgot to mention that being anonymous also factors into elitism.

I think this Penny Arcade strip sums up my point quite nicely.

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Xblade

· #16 · Aug 24, 2009 (Edited by Moderator)

Densetsu said:
I also forgot to mention that being anonymous also factors into elitism.

I think this Penny Arcade strip sums up my point quite nicely.

NIce pic but try to keep in mind that this is the main forum........

zidine00

· #17 · Aug 24, 2009

it makes a good point though.

but why does 2+3=cats?

Spyhop

· #18 · Aug 24, 2009

zidine00 said:
oh i thought he was talking about pc gaming, hence left for dead. unless theres a console version,

L4D is kinda of a unique creature. There's not really a lot of dedicated server situations where people come and go, with admins to slap down troublemakers. It's a 4 player co-op game, so you're in very much the same type of scenario as XBL.

Xblade

· #19 · Aug 24, 2009 (Edited)

zidine00 said:
it makes a good point though.

but why does 2+3=cats?

2=cat ears 3=cat mouth.........off topic :drool:

makotech222 said:
i consider myself addicted. it caused my poor grades in my first year of college.

I guess, but you could stop if you wanted too. A real addiction is when you can't stop at will.

Spyhop

· #20 · Aug 24, 2009

See? This is why LANs are awesome. You don't usually get the same kind of douchebagness.

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