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I think that having permanent infractions is a bit much, as the years go buy those infractions could accumulate..........Shouldn't the infractions have like a 2 year expiration date? >_>
 

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Not for petty offenses. Progressism is cooler. People can change a lot in 6 months, and most regret whatever misdeeds done much before.
Accumulating violations within less than a single year/6 months is a much clearer message, no need assigning long periods, or have eternal infractions. These still exist when they expire. Call it grace, atoning or recognizing that people deserve second chances if non-violative.
 

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I can't particularly say I regret doing what I did to get my warning and infraction :/.

People do it all the time........just without a big fat infraction.
 

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Is it currently a "3 strikes your out" system? I would hope weight as attached to each infraction to determine the severity of punishment...
 

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Is it currently a "3 strikes your out" system? I would hope weight as attached to each infraction to determine the severity of punishment...
The way I see it it still depends on your general record anyway. If you'd be consequently posting rom links, chances are you'll be banned soon enough anyway. If you have the occassional slip up, the three strikes can be stretched. Wielding the banhammer is a necessary evil, as I prefer not to use it. It's a last resort thing only for spammers or for those who will never change and do more damange to the community than they do well.
 

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BTW, why aren't mods allowed to set an expiry date to infractions? I remember jonc complaining in the bin as to how he could only give out never-ending infractions (he even posted a screenie of the options to convince the critics who said he was lying).
 

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You probably know more about this then me, but in the screenie he took, all the infraction types had a never ending expiry bound to it.
 

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mods and smods can give custom infractions on Vbulletin, as long as it is enabled for their usergroup privs.

used to do it to ban spam bots on ZeldaLegacy forums, while the big Anon vs Zelda sites thing was happenin.
 

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It would be nice for mods to have the privilege of banning through the infraction system, I don't know how many time I've seen a spammer or bot and couldn't do anything except delete it's post if it posted in any of the sections I was assigned.

Infractions should be set to expire after a set length, it's not like there isn't still a log of the infraction, this is common knowledge of Vbulletin and what I know from dealing with Vbulletin.

Infractions should also be allowed to be reversed, I've seen at other forums where moderators will ban or infract someone out of spite because they had a bad day or hold a grudge against a person.
 

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How long do you need infractions to last, though? At one forum I go to that uses a heavily modified version of vBulletin, most infractions last either two or three weeks. The longest infraction length is two months, and that's only for repeat offenses. Also, infractions there have weights of 1, 2, and 3 points. 4 points gets you reduced posting rights, while 6 points equals a ban. And yes, all of that is common knowledge to anyone that reads the rules and FAQs of the forum. (I've noticed that information about infractions here are not as publicly known.)

That system works for them, but maybe you have different needs here, especially considering that warez violations are rare at the aforementioned forum (and worth a 3 point, 45-day infraction), while here they are commonplace.
 

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Prafull, are you sure?, Shouldn't you have discussed with chrono and RF atleast first??
 

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Having a Ryo Hazuki avatar is all justification needed ;)

How long do you need infractions to last, though? At one forum I go to that uses a heavily modified version of vBulletin, most infractions last either two or three weeks. The longest infraction length is two months, and that's only for repeat offenses. Also, infractions there have weights of 1, 2, and 3 points. 4 points gets you reduced posting rights, while 6 points equals a ban. And yes, all of that is common knowledge to anyone that reads the rules and FAQs of the forum. (I've noticed that information about infractions here are not as publicly known.)

That system works for them, but maybe you have different needs here, especially considering that warez violations are rare at the aforementioned forum (and worth a 3 point, 45-day infraction), while here they are commonplace.
Here there's no consequences to the infractions, there's no autoban, and there's no reduced permissions. It's merely a tracking device for staff to log past behaviour. However, with the infractions being there permanently it created rather negative tension about long term members fearing for access to the forums because of slip ups long ago.
 

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Its just a minor change to something which should have been originally there by default. I mean why mods shouldn't be allowed to give custom infractions?
So cooliscool can't ban me :D
 
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