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Formula corporations make sure you think they know better than nature and that you are safest buying their products for your baby. They are very cunning and clever with their ad campaigns.
They entice you with images that make you feel safe, secure and modern as a parent.

Do you really think they care about your precious baby?
NO!
If it makes no CENTS for them it makes no sense.
Formula companies are only interested in your money which leads to their capital gain and control!

Do you even know what goes into formula?
How those ingredients are made?
Have you looked past the can of formula in your hand to see what is really behind it, what's really in it?
Have you looked past the fuzzy, warm commercials for real solid information about infant nutrition? NO!

Well of course not! You’ve been pumped full of misinformation your whole life about it!
You've been duped, bamboozled, hoodwinked! Flat out lied to.
Hell chances are you were probably pumped full of it as an infant yourself!

Well don’t worry I did it for you.
I waded through the nasty sludge of infant formula “science”. Yep thats right.
I followed the yellow brick road and uncovered one horrific truth after the other!
I am here to expose that nasty, toxic truth about what babies are sucking on!
I am here to say NO to those bloody corporations.
To tell them to STOP POISONING our infants STOP LYING TO THE PEOPLE.
I am here to tell you to WAKE UP!

Infants are being poisoned, all at the hands of giant corporations, heck, we are all being poisoned.
Don't believe me?
That's okay, its a big bite to chew, I get that, but it doesn't change the facts.
My mission is to present those facts to you in hopes that you are encouraged to dig deeper, look further and make informed choices, especially when it comes to your precious baby and children.
You deserve to know the truth and more importantly your children deserve the very best start you can give them.
I will provide you with sources and links about infant nutrition.
I will guide you along as best as I can.
If you have any questions or comments please do post in the comment box, I will do my best to help you.
Please, if you have info share it here in the comments section as well, I want to learn.

Here is a list of some of the toxic chemicals that are present in infant formula

MSG
Free aspartic acid
BPA
Fluoride
Hexane
Mercury
Melamine
Cyanuric acid
Formaldehyde
Antinutrients/soy
Bacteria
DHA/ARA?

Shocking, I know.
Sicking, you bet.

So why are these TC's (toxic chemicals) in infant formula?
How could it be produced and sold?
Why aren't FF (formula fed) babies dying? (they are and some of the "healthy" ones have symptoms of slow poisoning)

Those are all very great questions and we will explore each toxic chemical in detail and even explore infant morality rates, infant nutrition through the years.

A quick summery of the answers are that all these TC's (toxic chemicals) are found in individual processing of the ingredients listed on the formula tins.
The solvents used to extract and produce the ingredients are laden with TC's.

For instance a very widely used sweetener that is used in nearly all processed foods from ketchup, candy to infant formula is HFCS or High Fructose Corn Syrup.
Anything ending in "ose" like glucose fructose or dextrose etc are all HFCS re-named.
Sounds simple but it isn't, caustic soda containing mercury is used to separate the corn starch from the corn and that is how HFCS contains mercury.
Therefore infant formula containing HFCS or any other "ose"contains mercury.

Some Mercury poisoning symptoms include

Rashes
Constipation
Diarrhoea
Muscle weakness
Lethargy
Sound sensitivity
Neuromuscular impairments (facial twitching, pins and needles feeling, muscle atrophy)
Emotional effects include shyness, anger, mood swings etc.
Insomnia
Headaches
tremors
ringing in ears
dizziness

Makes you wonder why that baby with the formula bottle is really crying.

MSG
BPA
Fluorosis
DHA/ARA
Hexane
Mercury
Melamine
Cyanuric acid
Formaldehyde
Antinutrients/soy
Bacteria
Patent info on DHA and its extraction
Martek (IF corporation)
International Infant morality rates charts and formula


*MSG in formula
How many parents realize that MSG lurks in every bottle of formula given to their infants?
Patients have stronger reactions to MSG than arsenic or mercury.
In children, however, the destruction of healthy brain tissue is not the only problem associated with glutamate. A child's brain is growing, and it is suspected that excess glutamate causes connections to be made inappropriately. Certain sensors on the neurons, called growth cones, allow the neurons to detect and grow along chemical trails in the brain, ultimately constructing the necessary pathways.
MSG - Mono Sodium Glutamat = Natrium Glutamat , Natron Glutamat
A child experiencing "innumerable seizures" at 6 months of age showed dramatic improvements after removal of MSG from the child’s diet. Brain Damage in Primates Evident 5 Hours after MSG Ingestion
MSG and Aspartame Neurotoxic Potential
Infant formula
MSG in Infant Formula


*Fluorosis
Infant Formula and the Risk for Enamel Fluorosis
Infant Formula - Safety - Community Water Fluoridation - Oral Health

*BPA
The chemical is bisphenol A, or BPA, a component of the plastic epoxy resins used to line metal food cans. Dozens of laboratory studies show that BPA affects the developing brain and reproductive systems of animals exposed to low doses during pregnancy and early life.
1 of every 16 infants fed the formula would be exposed to the chemical at doses **exceeding** those that caused harm in laboratory studies.
EWG's Guide to Infant Formula and Baby Bottles | Environmental Working Group
Based on its analysis of existing research on BPA, even a very small amount of the compound may cause a host of problems, from brain and behavioral disorders to cancer, a claim the formula makers and federal regulators adamantly deny.
Group sounds alarm on infant formula cans - CNN.com
Bisphenol A (BPA), known as the 'gender bender' chemical, leaches into liquid baby formula from the linings of cans at levels dangerous to infant health
Bisphenol A in infant formula at 'dangerous' levels, says group



*DHA
omega-3 and omega-6 fatty acids, produced in laboratories and extracted from algae and fungus, into infant formulas. The report presents disturbing research indicating that the new additives placed in infant formula are seriously endangering the health of some formula-fed newborns and toddlers. algal-and fungal-based DHA/ARA have been linked to serious side effects such as virulent diarrhoea and vomiting in infants consuming infant formula.
Cornucopia Institute » Replacing Mother: Infant Formula Report
http://cornucopia.org/DHA/DHA_FullReport.pdf
April 15, 2008–The Cornucopia Institute filed a legal complaint with the US Department of Agriculture (USDA) today, demanding that the agency enforce the organic regulations prohibiting toxic solvents from being used in the production of organic food.

Organic Infant Formula Process with Toxins at Circle of Food - Healthy Food Blog
*DHA/ARA that has been extracted from laboratory-grown fermented algae and fungus and processed utilizing a toxic chemical, hexane. Here's a link to the full report: http://cornucopia.org/DHA/DHA_FullReport.pdf

*Hexane
In some cases the oils are extracted from non-toxic algae and soil fungus using chemicals such as hexane, acid and bleach.
Hexane is a volatile liquid found in glue and gasoline. When inhaled in high volumes it can cause nausea, euphoria, headaches and nerve damage. You can read more about the hexane process and formula supplementation by downloading a report at the Cornucopia Institute.
Toxic Organic Infant Formula?

Hexane - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

*Mercury
Mercury is simply one of the most toxic substances you can put into the human body, aside from radioactive substances. As human beings, we're the only species stupid enough to actually poison ourselves.
The mass poisoning of humanity: an exploration of human stupidity by Mike Adams the Health Ranger
Leslie Hatfield: Our Melamine: There's Mercury in High Fructose Corn Syrup, and the FDA Has Known for Years

*Melamine (us)
Humans and animals that consume toxic doses of melamine develop kidney stones. These hard crystals can block urinary flow and make urination painful. They can also cause kidney failure and death, pediatric kidney specialist Marc B. Lande, MD, MPH, of the University of Rochester, N.Y., tells WebMD.
http://children.webmd.com/news/20081126/melamine-in-us-baby-formula
Trace Melamine Found In U.S. Baby Formula - CBS News
Hiding the truth about melamine formula The FDA exists for only one purpose: To protect the profits of powerful food and drug companies. Babies be damned.
FDA Hid Names of Melamine Contaminated Infant Formula Products from the Public by Mike Adams the Health Ranger

*Cyanuric acid
This white, odorless solid finds use as a precursor or a component of bleaches, disinfectants, and herbicides.
When cyanuric acid is administered together with melamine (which by itself is another low-toxicity substance), they may form extremely insoluble crystals,[10] leading to formation of kidney stones and potentially causing kidney failure and death -- as evidenced in dogs and cats during the 2007 pet food contamination and in children during the 2008 Chinese milk scandal cases.
Cyanuric acid - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Melamine And Cyanuric Acid: Toxicity, Preliminary Risk Assessment And Guidance On Levels In Food - World Health Organization

*Formaldehyde
It is lethal at very high doses by ingestion and considered a human carcinogen by the International Agency for Research on Cancer
Formaldehyde damages DNA, kills cells and causes cell proliferation
STATS: Babies, Bathtime, and Cancer?
Melamine resin is manufactured by mixing urea with formaldehyde under heat and pressure. What is Melamine?
Formaldehyde and 1,4-dioxane in bath products for children. Many products tested for this study contained both formaldehyde and 1,4-dioxane, including the top-selling Johnson's Baby Shampoo and Sesame Street Bubble Bath.
Children's Bath Products Contaminated With Formaldehyde, 1,4-Dioxane

*Bacteria
Powdered infant formula is not sterile which means it may contain bacteria
Enterobacter sakazakii is a gram-negative, non-spore-forming, rod-shaped bacterium within the family Enterobacteriaceae. the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) reported on a fatal case of meningitis in an intensive care nursery in Tennessee. The infecting organism was Enterobacter sakazakii, an unusual but often fatal, invasive pathogen. In the fatal Tennessee case, the infection was traced to contaminated powdered infant formula
Enterobacter sakazakii: Infections Associated with Powdered Infant Formula : Food Poison Blog
Advice for parents regarding infant formula from the Ministry of Health and NZ Food Safety Authority

The recent expert meeting recommended that caregivers to infants, particularly those at high risk (see
Q 4.), should be regularly alerted to the fact that powdered infant formula is not a sterile product.
http://www.who.int/foodsafety/publications/micro/en/qa2.pdf
Charts on bacteria growth and temperatures (not sure if this is a play it safe one by formula company scientists)
Enterobacter sakazakii and other microorganisms in powdered infant formula

*Soy formula
…soybeans act as potent enzyme inhibitors. These "antinutrients" block the action of trypsin and other enzymes needed for protein digestion. In test animals, diets high in trypsin inhibitors depress growth and cause enlargement and pathological conditions of the pancreas, including cancer. Soybeans also contain high levels of phytic acid or phytates. This is an organic acid, present in the outer portion of all seeds, which blocks the uptake of essential minerals-calcium, magnesium, iron and especially zinc-in the intestinal tract. A reduced rate of growth is especially serious in the infant as it causes a delay in the accumulation of lipids in the myelin, and hence jeopardizes the development of the brain and nervous system.
Soy Alert—Soy Infant Formula - Better than Breastmilk?

*Patent info on DHA and its extraction *(assigned by Martek Bioscience corp)
BACKGROUND OF THE INVENTION
it is an object of the present invention to provide a single-cell edible oil containing DHA. In general, it is an object of the present invention to produce single-cell oil in commercially viable yields (one that doesn’t smell offensive because of the source of the ingredients fish eyes etc). The oil, characterized herein as a "designer" oil, after extraction can be used in infant formulas, baby foods, dietary supplements and pharmaceuticals.
Infant formula and baby food containing docosahexaenoic acid obtained from dinoflagellates - Patent # 5397591 - PatentGenius

*Martek and a look at their finances and ratings in early 2009
Product sales were up 7% versus last years first quarter. (This is campaigning AGAINST breastfeedin btw)
The strength of our core infant formula business, growing consumer awareness of the health benefits of DHA
Martek Biosciences Corporation F1Q09 Earnings Call Transcript -- Seeking Alpha

*International Infant morality rates charts and formula
Journal Articles about Breastfeeding - Breast Feed

And this people, is why im Anti formula, and 200% pro Breast.
 

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It's pretty freakin' sad that they put all this crap in the formula for infants...Seriously, I think with how advanced we are now that we should be able to make something at least a little more healthy for them...

...Or you can just go the easy route and breast feed the kid with real breast milk. :p
 

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Mercury is also in some immunisation shots, which are linked to mental handicaps
 

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Nearly all heavy metals (mercury, gold, lead, etc.) can cause neurological damage and/or liver failure.

BTW - WB Squall! :)
 

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Its mostly byproducts of the production process, which means theres 0% chance of removing them.

Safest bet. DON'T FORMULA FEED EVER.

Evolution indicates that children throughout time have an average weaning age of 4-5 and a half with a max of about 8. Many people consider this to be gross, or obscene, where in fact its just how nature intended (The first teeth are called milk teeth for a reason). A child loses the ability to suckle when the adult molars come through and prevent the jaw movement required, which also happens to coincide with research that states this is when the immune system reaches its full strength (Both of these happen at between 5 and 8 years).

A growing number of mothers are seeking to nurse for as long as possible, and reclassed it as Full Term breastfeeding, rather then extended to reclaim the natural act that it is.

Under 20% of babies are still breastfed at 6 months, having been weaned onto contaminated infant formula's (the plastic in the bottle may also be contaminated with BPA, as can tap water).

BPA and Mercury are known not only for Cancers, but also Neurological conditions ranging from Learning disabilities, to schitzophrenia.

Hahaha, I love breasts too :lol: Anyway.. This formula are those artificial baby's milk ?? It's insane but, there are children that are allergic to breast milk or so I heard.

NOT POSSIBLE.

The child is usually allergic to a protein known as Casein which the mother ingests, Casein is a component of Bovine milk (Dairy).

Goats milk formula is still prone to the production contamination, however its composition is alot friendlier to an infants developing gut and does not cause digestive system damage.

Infants fed goats milk are 40% likely to become overweight in adulthood.
 

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No im not. I was at one point considering going into pediatrics, but decided against it.

My wife and I have already decided on breastfeeding our first child. I'm not having pesticide in my kids.
Interverse, Get as much information, as early as possible. Your wife should surround herself by as many nursing mums as she possibly can as this doubles the rate of success.

It doesn't come naturally, and there is some skill involved.

PS. Nurse on demand, thats how breasts produce milk. Schedule feeding will see her dry up within weeks and the infant will be classed as failure to thrive.

Also note that there are points at 3 weeks, 3 and 6 months where a child undergoes growth spurts, they will nurse more often which naturally stimulates more milk (Demand = supply). Nursing strikes may also happen where the child doesn't want to nurse, this doesn't = self weaned, The world is just a big exciting place and distractions abound. Feed in a quiet, not so distracting place to keep the child focused)
 

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...Or you can just go the easy route and breast feed the kid with real breast milk. :p
Well breast feeding isnt necessarily the easy route because anyone can make baby formula in no time, but only the mother can beastfeed. But many have said they prefer to breast feed purely because of the bonding you achieve with your child as a result. Then there are the many health benefits which Squally is well equipped with.:thumb: Perhaps the risks of baby formula should be taught in health class in school (mandatory in certain states in America to take this class).
 

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No im not. I was at one point considering going into pediatrics, but decided against it.



Interverse, Get as much information, as early as possible. Your wife should surround herself by as many nursing mums as she possibly can as this doubles the rate of success.

It doesn't come naturally, and there is some skill involved.

PS. Nurse on demand, thats how breasts produce milk. Schedule feeding will see her dry up within weeks and the infant will be classed as failure to thrive.

Also note that there are points at 3 weeks, 3 and 6 months where a child undergoes growth spurts, they will nurse more often which naturally stimulates more milk (Demand = supply). Nursing strikes may also happen where the child doesn't want to nurse, this doesn't = self weaned, The world is just a big exciting place and distractions abound. Feed in a quiet, not so distracting place to keep the child focused)

..second.

We're nowhere near baby-stage yet. We don't even have insurance(****ing economy). We do intend(as I do with just about everything) to research... the universe itself before baby production ensues.
 

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;) wise,... not all parents do... and then their ****ed when they hit a hurdle.
 

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Well, squall... Can you also do a research on what the breast milk is made of?:p

And I'm just wondering that are you sure your research is true about all infant formulas? As I'm sure you can find formulas that aren't that toxic:lol:

But my view on this is: breast feeding if possible... As it can be impossible in cases where the mother died while giving birth, mother just ran away or lost her breasts(breast cancer or smt like that) and let's not forget that babies are abandoned too.
 

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All formula's contain the ingredients listed. Either via willful addition, or byproduct of the production process.

I could probably list the first 100 components of human milk, but theres still another 300+ i don't know, 200 of which science doesn't know.......

btw.

BPA is in any plastic bottle which is made to be shatter proof.
 

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edited original post.
 

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Yeah, I've increasingly been made aware of all the damaging things in seemingly safe processed consumables.

I cut drinking from plastic containers and drinking any pre-mixed drinks.
No prepackaged foods (hand made salads now)

Physically there has been a large increase of my health status since I made the move.
Sleep is now consistent with no waking up during the night, I have so much concentrated mental focus. I'm generally happier now and at times almost feel high.

Great Post Squall!
 

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Yeah, I've increasingly been made aware of all the damaging things in seemingly safe processed consumables.

I cut drinking from plastic containers and drinking any pre-mixed drinks.
No prepackaged foods (hand made salads now)

Physically there has been a large increase of my health status since I made the move.
Sleep is now consistent with no waking up during the night, I have so much concentrated mental focus. I'm generally happier now and at times almost feel high.

Great Post Squall!
:lol: You sound like those cheesy people from TV-shopping...

"[product] is so awesome, after I started using it I no longer feel any pain! Just yesterday my husband beat me up but I felt nothing, I just don't know what I would do without [product]"

:lol:
 

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no he doesn't.... you're just interpretting it as such because everyone in the general public has been preconditioned to buy corporate bull****.
 

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Squall, I've come to the conclusion that you're just a paranoid *******.
 
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