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are you a patriot?

  • yes, i am an activist

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  • yes, but i dont try to change things

    Votes: 9 25.7%
  • no, i dont care at all

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  • i dont know

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How patriotic are you? are you an activist? do you object to the way that your country is headed? do you support it? do you care?

i was just wandering because of what's going on in my country (Israel), i dont support the government but i really care for israel. i cant change much (only 16) but i try to diselusion the people that i know about the motives of my country.
i feel i am a patriot. am i?
 

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I could care less what my govement dose as long as it dosn't involve me

Off topic: Some people in cerain chatrooms are really stupid, they say I am not patriotic because I don't care about the US at all even though I am a Malaysian citizen and I have indicated that in that chatroom
 

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Patriotism is a legacy concept from the XVIII century that somehow has managed to survive up to now.... if you ask me it's time we take the next step into something wider, like globalism, humanism or whatever term you want to coin :p
 

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Patriotic? probably not. I try to keep a world view, rather than a view that cares only about my country (USA). If more people in my country had this kind of view, I think we would all be better off.
 

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I am not patriotic in the first place. My only allegiance lies with me, I ain't going to serve a bunch of simians who strive each day to make a hellish country an even worse place. That being said, there is a big chance that the reason for me not being patriotic is the fact that my country doesn't deserve such attitude in the first place.
 

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Proto said:
Patriotism is a legacy concept from the XVIII century that somehow has managed to survive up to now.... if you ask me it's time we take the next step into something wider, like globalism, humanism or whatever term you want to coin :p
hmmm you are brobebly right but still.. the questuin remains :D
and unfortenetly the terms you mentioned will never happen.

That being said, there is a big chance that the reason for me not being patriotic is the fact that my country doesn't deserve such attitude in the first place.
why doesn't it? and btw you should be patriotic only for that reason only. try make your country better :)
 

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You don't know Kaiser, obviously xD . Besides, most argentinians i know are extremely patriotic. I guess if he isn't by now, there's no way in hell he'll ever be :p .

Im with Proto. Patriotism is an obsolete concept by now. I'm more interested in the world as a whole.
 

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I am patriotic to a point. I really like Canada, and when I compare it to other countries I realize I am a very lucky guy to be living in such a great place. That's about where it ends. I don't put up flags and wear canadian T-shirts ... I don't advertise for my country neither do I preech about it.
 

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How patriotic am I..? The day I declare myself a patriot is the day the earth 's crust shatters, the sun blacks out, and gravity is failing. I never understood patriotism for the life of me, and I never will. Believe me, I tried.

I am 0% patriotic, and that has nothing to do with The Netherlands nor its countless faults.
 

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I love my country, and yet, I want to live somewhere else......
 

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Ever look on the positive side of things? :p Patriotic isn't always what the world views (sorry for the crude example) But many Americans are "Patriotic" if you know what I mean ... My patriotism for my country isn't nearly that extreme.

[email protected] I know what you mean ;)
 

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Ever look on the positive side of things? :p
Quite often, but I also question everything that enters my mind.

The thing about patriotism is that the concept as a whole is strange and is often in conflict with neutrality and open-mindedness. Love for one's country is perhaps some emotional thing, and quite frankly, that's where I (luckily) fall short. ;)
 

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It just feels so odd, I'm proud to be English, and of the numerous achievements my country men have performed before now.
Proud of the fact that unlike certain countries, our leaders are literate, even eloquent in thier mastery of the English tongue.
Proud of the Empire we once had.
Proud of the skills of our armed forces.
Proud of the numerous technical achivements and great minds this country has pumped out
Proud of the long standing traditions we have.
And yet..... I want to move to a country on hte other side of the world.... I'm starting to believe that stuff on South Park about Chinpokemon.... I've been brainwashed.
 

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Well speaking for myself, the 'love' for my country isn't an emotional one. It is more of a feeling of "Wow, Canada (where I love) is a pretty damn cool place. I really like living here" It isn't the politics or anything of that nature, but for me, it is the setting, environment and people that make up my patriotism for my country that I live in ;)

I know what you mean though, Some people go totally overboard ...
 

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Razor Blade said:
"Wow, Canada (where I love) is a pretty damn cool place. I really like living here"
That isn't really what patriotism is about, though. Everyone has places one likes. So do I. Liking the place you live in, the scenery, the people and so on is all good and fun. Patriotism goes as far as actual love, and even pride as Kane just has demonstrated. Patriots are in love with their country. It's about feeling close and tied to what your country is or has represent(ing/ed), and defending it through and despite all its faults.
 

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i cant imagine myself wearing a maple leaf t-shirt, cap, pants.... heck maple-leaf ANYTHING. and no, not even a shirt for the Maple LeafS.
 

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I own a Saltire and am a member of the Scottish Socialist Party.

Being President of the Republic of Scotland is one of my future aims. :D

But saying that, I do believe in integration with Europe. In nations such as France, Germany and the UK we are divided, but together, every nation of Europe could make one huge difference not just to Europeans, but to the entire world. Some economic forecasters have deemed that the 21st Century is Europe's Century (whereas the 20th Century was America's). The European Union is just too damn beaurocratic IMO.
 

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it's mind boggling that my social security is in the hand of this baboon, so I'm gonna speak out as much as I can
 

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I send my patriotic ways towards defending my families freedom from control freaks of the world who forever what reason they have in their head want to control the populas as their own. What dumn a..es... Seriously, get a life...
Whether it's taxes, free speech issues, government controls, environmentalism, blah blah blahisms... Someones always trying to get in your face... That's why I'm only patriotic towards my family... That's why this internet and these forums are great. It's just me against the world... Rock on!!!!!
 
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