apollo. like 1964 hav been around for years, like since nemu. but both for ages hadnt got too far other than emulating like mario64. then recently with the initial release of pj64, the emus got lght years better. 1964 has now a compat. list that is comparable to pj64, just not as good. and apollo, before azimar OFFICIALLY discontinued public releases, got so much better, in that it was the first emu to run paper mario. this all happened about the same time, and was apparently due to some bug fix that really helped compatibilty. i actually new that azimar had advanced his emu since the last release 0.02 from irc chat, so i wouldnt get too annoyed about azimar not releasing official releases anymore, as there r other means of releasing it. but please please do not bug azimar about releasing it, hes obviously progressing nicely, and these regular updates seem to show this. also azimar will continue to bundle new audio plugins - which of course rock.