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Well if you have been following this for the past few weeks, it seems the ESRB has came to the same conculsion I did; that Rockstar did program the "Hot Coffee" minigame into the game, but left it hidden as the port was rushed anyway and they didn't want an AO rating slapped on the game either.
Anyway Rockstar is saying they will now make a new version of the game , but what retailer will be willing to carry it?
 

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The point is that in America, AO is basically the equivalent of the movie rating of X, and not found in any normal retailers. It's completely ridiculous how all this is over that stupid sex mini-game, which is no more graphic than a PG-13 movie. The double standard regarding sex and violence is absurd... if anything this should have been AO from the beginning, solely because of the graphic violent content... but all it takes is a raunchy game, and our Puritan based culture flips the hell out and marks it as instant contraband.
 

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This looks like an episode out of South Park episode where the parents freaked out on nudity...

I can never understand the minds of Americans.

It's okay to start wars, carry guns and kill human beings, but when it comes to love and sex it's the end of the world.
 

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touche....

I'm just gonna say that Rockstar is quite dumb to even pull something like this. They knew that GTA:SA would of been picked and poked at by the government and those family consertivative groups...but they had to push the envelope anyways. To make it worse, Rockstar even denied, at first, that they put sex into the game on purpose (said something about a hacker)

Probably the outcome of all of this: Grand Theft Auto will not be mainstreamed anymore....at worse, no sequel. Even if they do release a new version w/o the sex, I doubt if the ESRB will pull it back down to a M rating
 

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why is everyone making such a big deal. The people who complain about videogames either don't have any kids or are too lazy to watch there own kids. It's very simple, where would a teen < 17 get 50 bucks to throw down on GTA and 150 bucks for the console to play it on. Its real sad and it not like kids are going to stumple across it like porn on the internet. You actually have to get a AR or GS to even get the dumb thing to work on a PS2, how convient is that. I think politics should let the videogame industry govern itself, it clear the government has no understanding of these matters. Its just like the superbowl thing, "We saw a nipple, lets call the whole thing off!"
 

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why is everyone making such a big deal. The people who complain about videogames either don't have any kids or are too lazy to watch there own kids. It's very simple, where would a teen < 17 get 50 bucks to throw down on GTA and 150 bucks for the console to play it on
It's called mommy and daddy. You'll be suprised how many kids have parent that jump at every little of their wants. I wasn't that fortunate, and I'm glad I'm not (hell, I had to shell out half of my birthday money just to split the cost of a N64 with my dad :p)
I think politics should let the videogame industry govern itself, it clear the government has no understanding of these matters.
people don't like taking responsibility for themselves anymore.....they force the government to control the kids for them. Don't expect that to change any time soon
Its just like the superbowl thing, "We saw a nipple, lets call the whole thing off!"
or put Paul McCartney on it, and really have it suck a nut :p
 

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Well I thought the game should've been AO from the beginning, but kids can obtain porn on the net easily and this is a kind of lame reason to make it AO...
I had "sexually explicit" games on the Commodore 64 when I was a teen and it didn't make me a child molestor, pervert, rapist, or whatever, but then again C64 graphics were not as good as PS2...
And I own GTA3/VC but don't play them often, they're "ok" but I don't see them as "great."
Does this mean Wal Mart will stop selling it? Aren't they against AO games?
 

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Whats funny about this is that God of War has a sex mini game too - and you actually see bare titty at times. Yet nobody's talking about that one :p. I guess since they're demons, it doesn't count :chuckle:
 

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Has GOW sold as many copies as GTA:SA? that might be why it doesn't get noticed as much...

It "appears" that the game might not be sold by Wal Mart, the "local" Wal Mart, where I shop doesn't have any copies and I can't find it on the website... :hdbash:

But it could be a coincindence? :innocent:

The "local" Electronics Boutique said they'd still sell it... :thumb:
 

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The grand theft auto should from the beginning had an adults only rating having sex with prostitudes, going around killing civilians, killing cops, etc. It deserves so.
 

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But until you "hacked" SA it didn't show graphic sex?
You didn't see the guy having sex with prostitutes...
 

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Greetings,

My only thought not otherwise expressed by my esteemed peers in this thread: Is there really such a massive difference in maturity and experience between a 17 year old and an 18 year old? Of course, this begs to ask, where does one draw the line? I would submit that one year does not an age gap make.

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PS And yes, the USA has some of the most convoluted "moral" values imaginable.
 

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We at good ol' Circuit City dived at the case and imediatley threw them in a bin and marked do not sell lol. ....*sigh* the things I do for 10 dollars an hour...
 

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Whats funny about this is that God of War has a sex mini game too - and you actually see bare titty at times. Yet nobody's talking about that one :p. I guess since they're demons, it doesn't count :chuckle:
don't forget FF8....Shiva and Siren looks like they have pubic hair :p
 

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hehehe...Do you really want to delve deep into how screwed up American moral society is?

God of War sex minigame..no prob - Rate M
Outlaw Golf girl on girl lewdness..no prob - rated M
Leisure Suit Larry - whole game based on scoring...no prob - rated M

GTA: San Andreas - carjacking = no prob, murder of cops = no prob, blowing up public places = no prob, hot coffee sex? = no prob.....er..hmm...wait...A BLACK MAN CAN HAVE SEX WITH A WHITE WOMAN??!?!?! HOLD THE PRESSES!!!

Get Hillary Clinton on the phone! She hasn't been in the public eye for a while...She will love this for publicity..both her and Lieberman can have an political orgasm together! Not like anything else major is going on that deserves any real attention in the Senate!


You have no idea sometimes.....
 

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Sheeesh! Whats the problem of putting sex into a game? and why make it mature? I know that half the people out there are enjoying it. and the other half may have already in reality experienced it before they were even 18??

different people have different sexual desires, they pop up in different ages for different people, and so, i think it vital to allow marriages and all that.. but what difference does that make.....

BTW GTA SAN ANDREAS sucks.....................
 
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