[Sera]

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Inno3d gf4 ti4200 64mb/128bit, with modded hsf (thermalatke gf4 ti all copper hsf) for the price of $60

Is that a good deal? Should I get it?

 

[ViperXtreme]

imo, you should just get a better DX9 card, some games comin out today already requires a GeForce 3/4Ti these days.

also, seeing that is the Inno3D brand, it has some overheating issues, like most people experienced (but since you will get a modded hsf, it might resolve it)

 

[Sera]

Could you give me a decent DX9 card with my budget?

The only ones I could found that costs around P2k-3k here are FX5200 and FX5500 which are low-end cards and is said to be much slower than ti4200.

 

[ViperXtreme]

P2K-3K? is that peso?are you pinoy?

back on topic,
yeah, the Ti4200 can easily beat the FX5200 and the 5500, actually all the GeFOrce FX series aint very good, its better if you head to the Radeon 95xx series and above/or GeForce 6.

The radeon 9550 is a good deal though, specially the Extreme Edition or Speedy edition ones (not to be confused with the SE version), and cost mostly around just below $100 US.

 

[Sera]

Just look into my profile

I heard about negative compatibility feedbacks on ATI cards. (especially with some EA games), and like I said, My budget is limited (6600 costs around $140)

 

[ViperXtreme]

ah yes, forgot about teh profile, pinoy here too .

anyway, ATi cards are just fine, its just the drivers, also you will have more problem on the GeForce FX series than the Radeon 95xx series due to the radeon's superior DX9 support.

 

[Sera]

Actually, I've seen you around in my long gone 'forum'. remember gcity and the dreamcast emulation?

But I really think this is really a good deal (Buying it from a friend and not to metion that my current card is a gf2mx400 ). It only costs P3k (around $60, + shipment fees included).

Let's just say im not really into DX9 capabilities but as long as current games runs smooth and fine in low-medium settings, I'm satisfied. should I get this?

 

[ChrisRay]

No its not worth buying.

 

[ToM_E]

how bout a ati radeon 9600 xt? i got it from newegg for $85...and it works great with all the games i have...

 

[Sera]

No its not worth buying.

Ookay. Anyone else?

Question: What if I dont have a DX9 compliant card, then I tried playing one of those DX9 compliant games? what would most likely happen?

Also consider that I'm making choices between a low-end DX9 card: FX5200, Rad 9250, or a high-end DX8 card: ti4200. cause if the higher FX/Rad series is all eye-candy but the same performance as of ti4200, I would really be getting this one.

 

[ChrisRay]

It would probably fall back to an integer/DX 8.0 codepath. But heck. BF2 wont even work with a Geforce 4 because it requires pixel shader 1.4

 

[Prafull]

Hmm....

I have a ti4200 8x from xfx. Its pretty good card with just only one slip i.e. it cant go over 1.3 when it comes to pixel shaders. Speeds are definitely better than 5200 fx. I am not satisfied with the card myself as I am into pcsx2 emulation and newer gsdx9 betas are using ps 2.0 for more and more games. So if you have any plans of entering ps2 emulation in near future then I will suggest you to get a card that supports atleast pixel shader 2.0.....

If you are really keen on getting a ti 4200 then get xfx turbo ti 4200 8x. Notice that "turbo" there ? In short its a ti4200 with enhanced speed and features. It wont be much different in price than inno3d one and it beats even 5700 le cards in most departments.

So make a choice. Personally I would advice you to save some money, wait a while and may be get a second hand 6600GT coz thats what I am going to do.

 

[Princess Garnet]

Compared to what's out there now, it doesn't really amount to anything. I have one in my second computer (the one I do emulation on) and it isn't bad. Can't say what'll happen trying to do DirectX9 stuff on it (never tried), but I can't see it crashing. Using the DircectX8 codepath seems likely, which means it'll run slower. I can definitely see a difference from my 6600GT though, but it'll still give you much more over your current card.

I got mine for about $25 though so it wasn't any loss. Oh, and Prafull, of course it's better than the 5700LE. The GeForce4 Ti is about equivelent to the FX5700 (not ultra, not LE) without the newer features. I'm unsure of speed, but it's a rough performance comparison. I think you were going by benchmarks, but performance isn't too different. On ATI's end, the 9600 is within the range of these two cards but it's definitely better, and it also has DirectX9 support.

My take? Get the cheapest of the three you can if you're budget limited. Your question was too broad though. Is it good in these days? Not really. Should you get it? That's up to you.

 

[GeneralClaymore]

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Inno3d gf4 ti4200 64mb/128bit, with modded hsf (thermalatke gf4 ti all copper hsf) for the price of $60

Is that a good deal? Should I get it?

yes it still a good deal, but it will not run BF2, because of it not having the shaders that BF2 req for it to start up.

but it still a good deal it can still play new games, 1024x760 and low. i played Doom3 with mine at 1024x760 and low. and it ran fine, just turn off shadows. even played Hl2 with it at 1024x760 med or high i dont remember which 2 settings i used, it been a while.

so if you on a budget and do not want to spend that much i would say go for it if your not gonna play BF2.

but if you have a bigger budget go for a 9800pro/6600GT i list both incase you perfer one company or the other.

 

[Prafull]

There wont be problems starting games that require higher pixel shader support. You can always use 3d analyze in such situations.

 

[Silvestre]

if you try to play games with dx9 then you'll get lesser effects and such that are supported by the dx9...if the game is a truly dx9 games and requires lots of new tech just like the BF2 mentioned before...then it won't run...it depends on the needs...that card was a great card and still is if you're going to compare it with the likes of Radeon 9250 or FX5200...yeah they support DX9 but they have no power at all
like some have said, better save some money and buy card like 9550 later on or you could buy that card right away if you really need it...

 

[Samor]

It's a good card but I don't know if $60 is all that of a good deal for such an old one.

I don't have many recent pc games btw, so I'm clueless on compatibility with new stuff - probably not too good. The newest/heaviest game I ran on it was NFSU2 and performance was reasonable.

 

[Sera]

Well, It got a modified HSF which costs around $10, then there's an additional $6 for the shipment, so the card alone would only cost around $44.

I'm not really into Battlefield 2 (I hate FPS). I previously owned a GF3 ti200 and I was pretty satisfied (until it got fried, so I switched backed to my old GF2mx) so I was thinking, if GF3ti200 was okay for me, what more if its a GF4ti200?

Anyway, I guess it's really all for me to decide, thanks for the advices tho.

 

[Princess Garnet]

The Geforce4 Ti is supposedly twice as good at most of the things the GeForce3 is. I know it's got like twice the bandwidth and performance or something (can't remember), but I'm going on what I heard. I've never owned a GeForce3 though so I can't say for certain.

If it's between a GeForce2, and an MX no less, then go for it. If you do no newer or heavy FPS games then I don't see why not.

 

[Sampah]

Geforce 4 ti 4200 is awsome though, I can run NFSU2 with reasonable speed at med detail, but oh well I can only get my hands on ti 4200 for a while, how about Radeon 9600 (non XT/pro) I think it's quite cheap...