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FF9 black/white border issue

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I just started playing FF9 again, after playing around with the graphics settings I'm still having some small issues, which you can see in the screenshots.

Here are my settings:

Plugin: Pete's OpenGL2 Driver 2.7
Author: Pete Bernert
Card vendor: ATI Technologies Inc.
GFX card: RADEON 9800 SE x86/SSE2

- 800x600 Fullscreen - NO desktop changing
- Internal X resolution: 1
- Internal Y resolution: 2
- Keep psx aspect ratio: off
- No render-to-texture: off

- Filtering: 6
- Hi-Res textures: 1
- TexWin pixel shader: on
- VRam size: 128 MBytes

- FPS limitation: on
- Frame skipping: off
- FPS limit: Auto

- Offscreen drawing: 2
- Framebuffer effects: 3
- Framebuffer uploads: 1

- Scanlines: off
- Mdec filter: on
- Screen filtering: on
- Shader effects: 4/2
- Flicker-fix border size: 0
- GF4/XP crash fix: off
- Game fixes: off [00000000]

I also use 2xAA and no AF. Does anyone have any suggestions on what to do to remove those borders? I tried all the filtering options from 1 to 6, and 6 seems to be showing the least problems. And turning up AA and AF will make the blizzard spell drop framerate for just a second, very annoying, and on top of that I had some crashes. Other than that does anyone know how to improve the graphics perhaps?

Another question is about the Rumble support. Currently it's set to DirectX and it works fine, but what does burutter do? I never heard of that term.

Thank you for your time :)

edit: I am using ePSXe v1.52 and just in case, my monitor support 1024, but only at 60Hz so I prefer 800x600
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it looks like a case of the sprite backgrounds not blending well with the polygons. Usually a filtering problem, but what you have should be fine. Perhaps reducing the internal Y resolution or trying stretched hi-res textures?
Assuming you won't mind the broken top, bottom, and sometimes sides of the text boxes, I would say use a filtering level of two. A filtering of two over one normally would fix that. If none of them do though, have you tried other graphics plug-ins?

Now if you want opinions or recommendations on how to just improve graphics, then I can offer a few that I like. I use OpenGL 1.76 though, but I don't think that affects anything I'm about to mention. I use screen smoothing in place of Antialiasing. I also prefer a resolution of 640x480 over anything else becuase games with lots of 2D backdrops don't get stretched as much. Higher resolutions will make the world map and battle scenes a little better though, but the menus look like crap to me that way. You can try both methods if you want. It's a toss up for what you prefer really. As for filtering, a level of 2 makes it as close as it can be (text and menu images are perfect with screen smooting on for me), but the edges of text boxes are distorted as in your scrren shot, and slight tiling may occur in the background. Filtering of 4 is without those problems, but at a slight quality cost (images and mainly text are a little pixelated). Those are the two filtering levels I would recommend. That's all just based on trying things myself though.

Edit: I just read on Kane's site that AA and AF can't be used with OpenGL2 or you will get slowdowns.

Are you seeing full speed like that?
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What about Filtering set to 0?
Am I the only one who likes that setting?
Thanx, the stretching really helped, it removed all the border issues :) And thanks for pointing out to that FAQ, I already read his optimal configurations and used them and changed them to my personal liking.
what's wrong with this config?? :(

anyhow, Lord Zedeck, it's not that AA and AF cause slowdowns. as for AA, well, it doesnt do anything. you wont see any results. AF forces trilinear filtering which looks ugly, and can cause texture problems. 'course, it can also cause slowdowns too...just like using AA and AF causes a performance hit in regular apps.
hushypushy said:
what's wrong with this config?? :(
Perhaps the fact I don't have use for a Diabolo configuration :p
:emb: oops, forum hopping and not checking the clipboard....bad, bad me. link changed though ;)
Hehe, just as I suspected :p

Anyway, I don't like windowed games... And my I don't like 1024 resolution either because the 60Hz gives me an headache. And the I noticed the massive slowdown in menus, however my pc seems to be fast enough to maintain 50 fps in menus :) Also I can't use the 'very high x' setting because of my Radeon. Sorry for overlooking your thread. Anyway, I took a look at the screenshot, and I must say the models and faces look awesome, but I do not like the look of the backgrounds, so I'll stick with my own settings, at least I got the backgrounds fixed now, which was my main problem.
I've also seen the ATI configuration, but everything was way too blurry to my liking. I prefer a middle way, that's why I use one shader option, but only at level two. I guess graphics settings, especially with 2d backdrops, are very personal.
Anyway, I don't like windowed games
play in fullscreen then. all of pete's plugins let you pick.

And my I don't like 1024 resolution either because the 60Hz gives me an headache.
you can do 800x600 fullscreen. or even 640x480 fullscreen.

Also I can't use the 'very high x' setting because of my Radeon.
i know, i mention that in my thread too.

Sorry for overlooking your thread.
its ok, i forgive you.

also, my config is a guide. it's perfect for me, but maybe not for other people. if you like what you like, that's great. and hey, if you do like your config, i suggest you post it up, and post up a few shots--maybe other people will adopt your config too :)
Yeah I was thinking of that as well, I took a look at some of the textures in battle in Gizamaluke's grotto and I thought they were perfectly balanced between being filtered/blurry and psx-like blocky. I will post some screenies and the config in your thread later on :) Thanks for all the help.
more like, thanks for your help for expanding my thread ;) im always looking for input...not everyone agrees with me, sadly...
A shame, a forum is nothing without the support of it's members. Perhaps that thread could be made sticky so more people will notice it :)
I will do some more screenshot making and I will upload the stuff tomorrow together with my plugin settings. There's no such thing as 'the perfect settings', but a few suggestions will definately help out someone in need. And it's nice to have some 'standard' settings suggested from which you can tweak them to your own liking.
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