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bah. two terms is more than enough time. it'll never pass.
 

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And so the end of the world begins...
 

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The propsed amendment would not apply to George Bush. It would only start with the next president.

I think we should abolish the electoral college, first.
 

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well. you know most europeans look at americans as a bunch of morons.. so did our founding fathers. that's why they made the electoral college. So that people's ignorance didn't cause the elections of a moron. Electoral college is just fine in my opinion. Another thing it does is that offsets the the population/region issue. If all the heavily populated states got all the favor all the time there would be no one to defend the smaller states . Personally i think a state like california needs to be broken up into three or four different states. Way too large, way too over populated and too used to getting it's way.
 

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I actually don't see any problem with this. If people want their president to stay in power, there's no reason why it shouldn't be possible. Of course, I'd rather not see Bush be in office again, but his approval rating is way down anyway. Any hey, if this Bill passes then Clinton could run again :D. I agree with making getting rid of the electoral colledge top priority though.
 

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MY GOD, WE ARE SCREWED! People will vote for him becuase he will run around saying I saved the world! We are screwed...

...if this passes...which it wont...
 

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"well. you know most europeans look at americans as a bunch of morons.."

I am an america, and I look at all of us as a bunch of morons. They'd buy a turd if it was advertired enough...and we are all FAT! RAH...
 

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America has the most nuclear weapons.
America is also the most diseased nation in the entire HISTORY of humankind, America has so many people on mind altering prescription drugs and chemicals in drinking water that they are basically mentally disturbed.

These 2 facts could mean the end of Planet Earth (atleast the life on it).
 

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Contrary to popular opinion around here, I actually like the term limits to the U.S. presidency... I think it's one of the better ideas of the U.S. government. On a side note, Bush won't be president for life if the Democrats actually put up a decent candidate. Instead, they elected Kerry because he was more "electable"... note to Dems: put up someone with conviction and you would be surprised how Americans will vote for a guy who is borderline insane. Ross Perot was fricking crazy, yet he got almost 20% of the popular vote in 1992.

Some may say that it limits true representative democracy. Fair enough. However, the U.S. isn't a direct democracy per say; it's a republic. In addition, it ensures that one man/woman doesn't cling onto power forever. I believe that it keeps the government fresh even though we may not always agree with the change of direction.

In terms of the electoral college (an entirely different issue), supporters of the system do have several valid points. One of the strongest arguments for maintaining the system is ensuring that smaller states have a bigger role to play instead of being automatically ignored in favour of large, populous states like New York or California.

However, I think the Senate negates the utility of the electoral college. Since each state has two elected Senator regardless of population size, I believe the Senate is a sufficient defender of states' rights. Since electing the president is a matter of popular opinion of all Americans, the election system should reflect that.
 

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The Electoral College system sucks. Bush is a moron and he got elected anyway :???:

Not to the clueless: I'm being sarcastic; I know that Bush won the popular vote this time.

And Netghost made a good point regarding the Senate.

@RPGGamer: I don't see americans as a worse population than any other. Their major problem is that they have too much power, and corrupt politicians like everyone else.
 

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Hitler also committed suicide when he started to lose power :rolleyes:

I'm sorry Talbain, but comparing Bush to Hitler goes a little bit too far if you ever read anything about WW2.
 

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In the words of Oscar Wilde: 'America is the only country which went from barbarism to decadence without cizilisation in between'
 

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Changes to the US constitution have been historically very difficult (like when they changed the law on slavery)., it won't pass only because of that if for any other reason.
 

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Cid Highwind said:
Hitler also committed suicide when he started to lose power :rolleyes:

I'm sorry Talbain, but comparing Bush to Hitler goes a little bit too far if you ever read anything about WW2.
You'd actually be amazed at how similar Bush's tactics are to Hitler's. They've both targeted a minority for justification of actions (Iraqis vs Jews). Neither like the gay population. They used laws that slowly limited freedoms, or underhandedly did so (Patriot Act vs Final Solution). Both became president by using scapegoats. (Fundamentalism vs A believed "remove" from Destitution and Poverty). Did I leave anything out?
 

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@Boltzmann: Unlike the rest of the world America has so many people on drugs such as Ritalin that they cannot think straight or logically. The Fluoroscillic acid added to the water supply under the name of fluoride also saps your willpower giving the politicians more power to get people to agree with them.

As for the corrupt politicians, Americas politicians are corrupt to a much more extent they are virtually fascist http://www.oldamericancentury.org/14pts.htm
 

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this will never pass
 
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