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Just palyed around with an MP3 and a WMA I was having issue with on my Audiovox SMT 5600 ( Windows Powered Phone )



Anyway I had these 2 files that sounded ok on my home system, then placed on my phone I had trouble hearing on the ear buds, just too soft.

So I fired up Roxio Sound editor and had a go at tweeking the sound.

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Tweek and adjust ( added a simple 5 Db and tiny adjustments across the board)



File Saved and tranfered ( finished file )



It worked like a charm, now 100% volume is too loud ( no distortion either ).

Anyway there are many many Freeware and adware sound editors, plus Microsoft offer Win Media Encoder for free ( can adjust sound levels ).

If you have a sound editor I would say run your MP3's and WMA throught to tweek them up a bit for mobile use

I hope this helps someone get better sound form their unit be it a phone or micro MP3 Player, as it helped me a ton!!!

***TIP : Remember kids a little goes a long way, be careful when you up the Db level, too much will kill good sound and could hurt your ears*** :)
 

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Oooooopps I just realized this is in the wrong section :emb:

Could a mod please move this to software or it's area............

My bad my bad

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moved.

PS : just a minor adjustment in the master volume should do, I think :p

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Thank you Elly :thumb: ( Mod's and Admins rule )

Your right a tweek in the master will do, but Win Media Player on my phone has no eq. There is also Pocket MVP which has a built in EQ but I prefer WMP10.

So i do all my audio tweeks at once.
 

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Yeah thats a good idea, however most devices do come with an EQ. You may want to look for headphones that have a bass-boost built into them. If some of your tracks have imperfections in the audio, you may want to grab a trial version of GoldWave and clean them up. Goldwave would be much more powerful than anything thrown out by roxio.
 

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Hmm...That's some interesting advice. I'll give it a shot with my MP3 CD Player (It sounds great without editing my songs but I want to see how they'll sound :p)

Headphones with a built-in bass boost? Could you recommend a few?
 

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Yeah thats a good idea, however most devices do come with an EQ. You may want to look for headphones that have a bass-boost built into them. If some of your tracks have imperfections in the audio, you may want to grab a trial version of GoldWave and clean them up. Goldwave would be much more powerful than anything thrown out by roxio.
In my case the ear buds also have a mic attached and the plug is smaller then standard. In other cases if you want to invest in better software by all means, after all this is about getting enjoyment out of the toys.

Now my main thought was a less spendy way. As for software, for just a simple boost, any sound editor will do.

Roxio, Windows Media Encoder, Sound Blaster ( comes with all live cards ), Acid Pro will do it.

Now of the micro MP3 players I have seen and heard ( many as throw in deal with a call phone sale ), even tho they have preset eq, there is realy no boost.

A little work for free can pay off huge in the long run for you.
 

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I had this Pioneer head unit in my old car that didn't like it when I changed levels in songs. It would make this horrible popping sound even when doing something as simple as boosting the volume. And it wasn't just a certain program either, just about everyone that I tried resulted in the same popping sound. The weird thing is that I can play that same cd in the newer car with a Sony unit and it sounds as clean as the original, if not better.

I've never heard of Goldwave before, I'll have to try it out.

By the way, great song! Not too many people have heard of it before. It has to be one of his best songs.
 

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You can see in the final pic that the sound has clipped really badly towards the end so any impact that drums etc had is now lost as you have used all the dynamic range, also if you have resaved you have lost quality as re-encoding an encoded sound will lose quality.
Your best bet is to rip your cds to wav's then run any audio editing on the wav's before saving those as mp3/wma files.
If you need to increase the volume of a file your better off using hard limiting as you can set it to peak just below 0db, looking at the original file though it was really badly mastered in the first place as the left channel is quite a lot higher than the right (hard limiting would have sorted that though) but I suppose if your playing the track back through a phone the audio quality wont be nothing to shout about anyway.
So allthough you had a good idea you still have a bit to learn about audio editing ;)
My fave audio editor is Cool Edit pro (Now called Adobe Audition) as it has a really good interface & features that other more popular editors lack (SoundForge seems the most popular)

Oh & allthough I have never used one of those phones I assume you use a software player to playback MP3's can you not just get a player that like winamp has a "pre amp" built in ? as that will boost the volume.
 

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JAZ said:
You can see in the final pic that the sound has clipped really badly towards the end so any impact that drums etc had is now lost as you have used all the dynamic range, also if you have resaved you have lost quality as re-encoding an encoded sound will lose quality.
Your best bet is to rip your cds to wav's then run any audio editing on the wav's before saving those as mp3/wma files.
If you need to increase the volume of a file your better off using hard limiting as you can set it to peak just below 0db, looking at the original file though it was really badly mastered in the first place as the left channel is quite a lot higher than the right (hard limiting would have sorted that though) but I suppose if your playing the track back through a phone the audio quality wont be nothing to shout about anyway.
So allthough you had a good idea you still have a bit to learn about audio editing ;)
My fave audio editor is Cool Edit pro (Now called Adobe Audition) as it has a really good interface & features that other more popular editors lack (SoundForge seems the most popular)

Oh & allthough I have never used one of those phones I assume you use a software player to playback MP3's can you not just get a player that like winamp has a "pre amp" built in ? as that will boost the volume.
I see you have knowledge of sound editing. I must admit I have a lot to learn, but I lack the desire. I stick mainly to graphics.

I realize what I gave as exapmle most likely had you falling off your chair laughing as it was not something that shouldn't be done if you want pristine MP3.

It is however a quick and dirty fix if like me you have a file or two that is just so soft it was as if you were listening to whispers.

I will tell you tho the differance between the the 2 files is night and day on my phone.

Now there are alot like me who may have a micro MP3 player or device with limited or no boost ability. this is about the quickest way to fix files already on hand.

If you are ripping, then by all means follow your instructions to the letter. The more you do in the original process the better the end result.

I have used other made for windows mobile media player apps, but I found with say Pocket MVP the pre amp and eq were lame ducks. Slight to no boost but greater power consuption. I stick to Windows Media Player on my phone as it is all in one.
 

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Ooops hope it didnt sound like I was being smug & laughing at your efforts or taking the **** out of your phones MP3 playback abilitys as I wasnt ;)
It's just as you seemed interested in audio editing I thought I'd point out the mistakes you made too give you a few pointers for any future editing :)
 

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Ooops hope it didnt sound like I was being smug & laughing at your efforts or taking the **** out of your phones MP3 playback abilitys as I wasnt ;)
It's just as you seemed interested in audio editing I thought I'd point out the mistakes you made too give you a few pointers for any future editing :)
:thumb: Oh no, I thank you for you for your comment and will always listen to what I can as the more I can learn the better off I am.

I also tend to be cheep and try at all cost to avoid spendy software.

Should I go back and reconvert the original MP3 back to wav then edit? I doubt the CD will read anymore as it split in half. It got wedged between a few hard corners in a box during a move and bought the farm.
 
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