[Rargh]

Hi to all of u

I ve a BIG problem, and it seems that i m not able to find the cause:

well, i ve recently bought a new stick of ram, but it contained parity problems, so i m stuck w/ my old 64 mb ram stick for a moment.

The problem is, when i put the fsb frequency more than 66 mhz (my basis fsb was originally 133),the boot screen where the memory test screen takes place just...freezes. It says how much ram i have, but nothing else, it stops. I even cannot access to the bios.

besides, I can do everything when the fsb is lowered to 66mhz, the IDE peripherals test is taking place, i can access the bios etc..
But, i have only a p3 366 :\

Do i have to buy a new stick of ram? ( anyway, i ll re-do it soon, but i want to know what is the problem w/ it. I m sure that my stick isn t corrupted, it worked yesterday and it s a 133mhz ram stick so..)

Thx for ur help

Bye

 

[Rargh]

hum, an update (i fear that this isn t a ram problem -_-)
w/ ANY fsb superior at 66mhz it just freezes (except the 133 one, because the monitor won t turn on :\ )

 

[Betamax]

If it is running ok when you underclock the cpu there may be a cooling problem. Remove the case, switch it on and check that the fans are ok.

BTW any bleeps from the internal speaker?

 

[Ali]

Sometimes there is a comflict between the motherboard and the ram.Like I bought a ram of 128MB and it didn't matched with the mobo.....U can see my specs below.........so I changed the Ram chip and got another one with different brand.!

 

[Zephon]

Maybe your new stick of ram have different specifications altough they're all PC133. For instance, if your old ram was CAS2(latency) and your system was configured to use it properly, most propably a CAS3 won't work in your pc, unless you downclock it(your case). So you have to check ALL specifications of the stick you're buying because a small difference will make it crash your pc. All memory sticks must have the same spec. The latency thing was just an example and maybe it's not your case, i'm just saying it because most memories selling around are CAS3. You can configure CAS latency in your bios. Se it to 3 and try again.

 

[Rargh]

well, i think it s not a ram problem (this stick of mine was working since the beginning at 133mhz)
but, like u said, it could be the cooler...
it really does no sound compared to the old days, and when i see the temperature shown on the bios, i can only think that is the problem:
cpu t° (in celsius) 52°C
system t° 23°C

well, the surprising stuff is that my cpu is at the temperature it used to be when he was at 733mhz...
I guess that this is the problem then :\ (BTW, i m willing to buy anyways, so if this is the problem, it will be solved)

@betamax

I ve just done it before seeing the replies in this topic, and no changes (still "freezes" at 100mhz FSB)
and I don t have any beeps from the mother board..

I ve thought of something else (cuz' my cd rom drive was particularly slow while ejecting last night) it could be the power supply (or whatever,I dunno the english word) that is defective.

Thx for ur replies.

Bye

 

[Raziel]

Yes,power supply is the right word,but I don't think it's the problem,cooling is surely what to look for.

 

[campaign2016]

yeah you got it right
it is called a power supply
ive had two ove those things go in my lifetime they arent that expensive though (maybe 20 US$)
although if it goes, it can take other stuff with it.

 

[Betamax]

Well from what I have read since I'm more convinced that it is cooling. The best place for getting system coolers online that I know of is www.overclockers.co.uk . If I recall correctly the delivery charge is the same for france as it is here.

 

[Rargh]

thx to all your replies
Tomorrow, i ll buy a new cooling system, ram and power supply..
I ll tell ya if it was the problem (I m pretty sure that is the cooler anyway )

Bye

 

[Rargh]

ah man.. I ve bought a new cooler (1.4 ghz certified, just in case of upgrading soon :\ ), 256 mb of ram. And tested w/ a new power supply and...

Nothing but new "surprises", it seems to be the bios (or at least, the mother board): when i put more than 64 mb of ram, it freezes at the test screen.
when I put off my 64 mb stick in dimm slot 1 and put on a 128 mb stick, it doesn t boot (when I put off the 128 mb one, and put a 256 mb stick..No boot, but the mother board beeps. Long beeps and so on...

I just cleared the CMOS settings w/ the jumpers. Nothing new happened.
I 'll flash the bios w/ an older version...

Otherwise i ll have to buy a new mobo :\, that i do not want to do:
I prefer wait for having more money and buy a new cpu and a new mobo.
damn :\

 

[Rargh]

I just noticed something which seems to be important:

(how do i fix that?? Should I buy 5 coolers and put them in the computer??? It s very weird too, because I checked in the bios and the system temperature is only 30°C)
Anyone has an idea?

 

[Betamax]

Bleeps are not good. What's the mobos bios( award ami etc)? What is the pattern of the beeps?

As for the other according to that program the main system fan is busted. Is this with the new psu or the old one? I'd check this the old fashioned way. Stick my hand in front of it

 

[Rargh]

Very strange things have occured:

First: there are no more beeps when i put 256 mb of ram (BTW, it s an award bios)

then, my system fan was really busted, but when i opened it and "wash" it w/ my blow (hehe, dunno the word), it rounded again but..no sign of it in the bios, nor in windows.
I think that the "probe" (real word?) is busted, IMO.
What does it looks like in the power supply?

Thx again

 

[Betamax]

Sorry is the memory working now? So the fan was blocked with duct eh?

 

[Rargh]

unfortunately, the memory isn t working (but i guarantee this isn t a stick problem).
for the fan, i dunno why it stopped... But the manager is always showing that the fan doesn t work...

Anyways I ve just 1 solution left before buying a new motherboard and a new power supply.

I have to flash the bios w/ all the versions I find but, The awardflash program is ALWAYS showing that:

"Fail due to EMM386 or QEMM"

That I never experienced before...
What does that mean? I ve disabled the flash protection of the bios, all cache related stuff...

I really don t know.
Anyone has an idea of the signification?
Thx again

Bye

 

[SimonMallion]

QEMM and EMM386 are DOS Extended (or is it Expanded?) Memory Managers. This may sound stupid but do you have a DOS boot disk with these on that you can use to boot up and then run your flashing software?

 

[Betamax]

If you don't then you can make one via the add/remove programs option in control panel. Once this is done copy the emm386.exe file from the windows\command directory onto the floppy. Open up the config.sys on the floppy file in note pad and add the following line at the end of the [nocd] section.

Devicehigh=emm386.exe

restart the computer with this disk and from the menu that appears choose nocd or the equivalent. That should get around the problem.

 

[Rargh]

I succeeded to flash my bios, but that wasn t the problem it seems...

Lately, my comp froze at the frequency i m running now ( fsb 66mhz... -_-) and restarted after a few reboots (weird..)

So I hope this is only the power supply, which i m going to buy a new one soon.

(BTW, I had played dewprism on epsxe w/ 64 mb of ram and at 366mhz and it ran full speed , just incredible ^_^)

Bye

 

[1up]

When you flash a bios, you must always boot
CLEAN into dos. Don't load ANY drivers at all.
No Emm386.exe or Himem.sys. The easiest way to do this is to just copy the awdflash.exe and your
bios image to a floppy that has been already
formatted with system files ONLY.
(command.com, io.sys, msdos.sys)

Do they even make a p3 366 EB?
Are you really running those 133mhz dimms at
133mhz? I doesn't really matter, but i'm curious.

Sounds like the sensor pin for your fan isn't working, possibly when your fan stopped because of dust. You might have already fried either your motherboard or processor. How long were you running your system with the proc fan not working?

Why don't you post your BIOS settings.
I'm pretty familiar with award.
And are you using Jumperfree, and setting the
fsb,cpumult,etc. in the bios? Or are you using
jumpers on the board?