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Check these sites out:

Male: http://www.sexisforfags.com/
Female: http://www.ironhymen.com/


I especially like this quote:

Brianna K.: "Iron Hymen taught me how to use super-effective strategies for just abstaining from natural stuff. And it works so good, that now when I get all old, I'm going to abstain from wrinkles and dying, too!"
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RZetlin said:
Sometimes you can't tell if sites like these are real or fake with reports like these coming out:

Poll: Religious Devotion High in U.S.
OH NOES THE EVIL RELIGION THEOCRACY IS COMING!!11

Anyway, I have to say the poor photoshop jobs done on the sites are part of the reason why they are so effective in conveying their message. The one with the first lady was especially amusing. :p

Dr. Dobson is scary. :p I remember when a church group protested Focus on the Family because they said they were too lenient on homosexuals. Focus on the Family, one of the most conservative organizations around. Yep.
2Cloudvii: No one makes fun of religion in general or Christianity in specific. The point is that there are organisations with medieval ideals trying to force them unto our present lifestyle.

Similarity: The Islam itself is a very peaceful religion. The Koran forbids you to kill, for example and women are valued above all, the body-conceiling clothes were only invented to protect them from men (no one would rape a woman he doesn't find attractive - almost). It is always the people who try to abuse it for their own interests.
Forcing what? the jokes ? Sorry I didn't understand. But yes your statement about Islam is totally correct.
I meant those medieval ideals. Just like that No-Sex-before-marriage stuff.
Sex before marriage isn't allowed in many religions. It's not medieval ideas.
It's an ancient belief, just like F-3582 said.
Haha. You know what's the problem with this conversation? It's that it can never be solved. Your words which may seem natural or expressing freedom is just offending every thing I believe in. On the same time I can't do anything but just defend and ask you gently to stop mentioning your thoughts about religion.

Is it hard for you to do so?
I don't like being censored. Not everyone has to live by the morals of your religion.

Bans against sex before marriage are ancient, and this is historical fact. I'm not saying that it's "wrong", just "old".

I don't accept any religious rule in my life, like it or not.

And what's the harm of expressing my thoughts on the subject? I'm not offending you, or anything.
Boltz, why don't you understand? I don't care if you hate religion or not. But you are saying that all the time. I won't say that offends me this time but you know I got bored already :p .

Boltz : I hate religion.
Boltz : Religion is so old.
Boltz : Jesus and Spider man aren't my favourites.

Have you got the point already?
Until you brought the subject of religion up, I hadn’t said anything. I merely quoted a joke from the site, and you started to say that it was offensive.

You were the one to bring religion up, not me. Now don’t complain that I’ve expressed my views about it.

You complained about the joke, and I said that jokes are just jokes. Then you said that religious jokes offend you (and that comparing the president to Jesus is offensive and blah blah blah)…
If you read carefully, you'd notice that I didn't say that the site is offensive. ^^ I clearly stated that. All I've referred to is a single joke there. And to end all the problem I returned to topic, but you didn't want to miss the opportunity to say the usuall words.

Boltz, my friend. My words doesn't offend you at all. Because I'm not hurting anything you care for. Unlike you..
Now plz close the subject. Thank you ^^
You won't offend me even if you say that science is crap. You'll only offend me if you say that I'm crap.

There’s a big difference between offending me and offending something that I liked and/or admire. That’s why you don’t see me complaining that X person offended me (unless they actually flame me).

And you were the one who brought up religion because of that joke, saying that it was offensive. I didn’t even mention religion before you did (and I didn’t intend to mention religion here, I just found that joke the funniest in the bunch).

BTW, what usual words did I say? I only said that it’s okay to make jokes about anything. We’ve freedom of speech.

If you really didn’t want to bring religion up, you could let that joke go, instead of saying your usual words.
You forgot that I didn't want to continue this nonsense as I've said before (for the third or fourth time in this thread) .

It's an honour for me to feel offended when someone offends something I believe in/adore or like. It's something that makes me normal. Even you can be offended if someone offends "X" subject you like. Like your parents for example. If someone offends them and you are ok with it you sure would be different from normal ppl.
Offending a belief is not the same as offending the belief-holder.

Or else I'll start saying that you offend me every time you say that atheism is false.

But I'm willing to let go of this discussion. I've even dropped it before, but you guys picked it up again.
I am sorry for reviving this again, but I'd like to know something:

Cloudvii, you said that sex before marriage is forbidden in many religions and I suppose that you faithfully obey the rules of yours. This would conclude that you never had sex, yet and you won't have before you get married. This of course also includes masturbation, because it makes dumb (sorry, I had to). Since you are younger than me, I suppose that you didn't marry, yet, right?

On the other hand you told the world that you'd never lose interest in sex which would reveal that you either already had sex or make some good use of your right hand.

In conclusion you either betray your own faith or don't believe as strongly as it seemed to me first. Either way you should at least understand the purpose of this site which is intended to make fun of some ancient rules that only have been recycled for one aim:

To be an excuse for coward parents who are ashamed to teach their children the meaning of sexuality.


The only effect is an increasing rate of teenage pregnancies, because there are so many young people who still try it, although nobody told them to use condomi!

Do you agree with me up to now?

If yes, why shouldn't we make fun of that? Furthermore, shouldn't we make fun of government-supported campaigns to increase the amount of children not knowing a thing about sex?

No one ever said that Christianity sucked and Jesus had been a ...... (insert an insult of your preference here). I suppose that Boltzmann was just angry about your stubborn attitude. Religions help people surviving in this horrible world, gives them hope and simplifies a lot of things many people simply wouldn't understand at all.

There's just some teachings that have been made two thousand years ago which need to be adapted to meet our present circumstances. Premarital sexual intercourse is one of those things, because medicine and science has progressed far enough to be able to explain the human body fairly well. It has been proven that sex doesn't just makes you happy, but also prevents numerous deiseases, increases your lifespan, increases your physical ability and much more. It even increases your mental performance.


You don't have to answer this, but I'd suggest you to think about it.

...Friends again? :)
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Actually I never said I had sex before. And when I said that I won't lose interest in sex, I really meant that I want to have sex. I don't know if I'm younger than you or not, but on the same time, me and you have the desire to have sex. It's inside every one of us.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
And I won't reply to your religion related statments.

Ofcourse we are friends still :D . We here have a proverb which says something like : "Different opinions doesn't spoil the love" . (That's a very bad translation from me btw, but I guess you've got the idea ;) )
Offending Jesus is not just offending a belief.

In religion a mutual relationship greater than anyone is formed by the people and their God, God is their life, their hope. their 'guide'. Insulting God is like saying "That person must be really a doofus believing in someone who doesnt really exist!" we are affected, unlike in Science which is an objective, It can't be offended: "Being successful sucks". It's more opinionated.

Do you know how unfair it is when someone bashes religion? It's like a relative abused yet we cant do anything about it. It's very painful on our part. Especially when science comes into the scene where they feed on evidences and facts. We just cant win by saying "We have faith".
Sasuke said:
Offending Jesus is not just offending a belief.

In religion a mutual relationship greater than anyone is formed by the people and their God, God is their life, their hope. their 'guide'. Insulting God is like saying "That person must be really a doofus believing in someone who doesnt really exist!" we are affected, unlike in Science which is an objective, It can't be offended: "Being successful sucks". It's more opinionated.

Do you know how unfair it is when someone bashes religion? It's like a relative abused yet we cant do anything about it. It's very painful on our part. Especially when science comes into the scene where they feed on evidences and facts. We just cant win by saying "We have faith".
Imagine that you don’t like Spider Man comics and you say, “hey, Spider Man sucks”, or you make a Spider Man joke.

Now suppose that I come along claiming that I’ve a deeply held personal belief in Spider Man, and that by offending him you’re offending me. Would you attach any importance to my feelings toward Spider Man?

Now think about more ancient religions. Suppose that I believe in the Greek pantheon and start writing angry letters to all websites that speak about “Greek mythology”. What would be your opinion about it?

You want your religion to be considered off-limits, yet you don’t mind calling other people’s religions a mythology and relegating them to history books. And some people still believe in ancient Egyptian religion, for instance – I can provide links if you want.

But these people are a minority, and no one gives a damn about them; who cares if we use Set or Osiris in a bad movie with a retarded plot? No one cares about it. But if someone puts Jesus in the same movie, hordes of people will complain.

You’re not forced to read what anyone else writes, and since they’re not offending you, you’ve no right to complain.

If you think that someone like me is too offensive toward religion, then by all means put me in your ignore list. I won’t be offended by your act.

If you believe in an all-powerful god, then he can take care of himself. If he has a problem with my behavior, he can do whatever he wants about it; he doesn’t need any offended believers doing it for him.

BTW, as an atheist I do think that all theists believe in something that doesn’t exist. Apparently you’re saying that my outspoken atheism offends you.

And yes, science is based on evidence, not faith. That’s why science has succeeded so much, right?
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Well, let's check paragraph by paragraph.

1) If I'm a good guy, I should respect your fanboyism to Spiderman. But Boltz, I must say that you took that example you always like to use just to piss us off. Or may be you can't think properly. Don't put God side by side with spiderman or anyother thing.

2) I know we are not forced to read your personal opinions about religion, but (put 50 thicklines under this) on the same time you can't write this in a public forums which has rules agaisnt any form of flaming/offending/harrasment or any insult.

So plz read the rules before you ask new members to read them.

3) Well, too bad I can't ignore you since in the same time you have some good posts.

4) Our God can take care of himself + he does take care of us too. That's why there is something you sure have heard of called "The judgement day" . Where all ppl would be judged : You for offending him and me for seeing this offence and shut up.

5) Science failed miserably many times. And God didn't give us much science btw, so don't get so proud.

* To any admin : A question in mind . Do you think Boltz's actions agree with your rules?
/waits for the answer.
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Now think about more ancient religions. Suppose that I believe in the Greek pantheon and start writing angry letters to all websites that speak about “Greek mythology”.
I never thought about that. But for me, it's more about respect. Everyone should respect everyone's religions and beliefs even if they don't believe in anything.

Someone once told me that they used the pages of the Bible as a means for smoking marijuana and my friends and I got kinda pissed off. That book means nothing to me, but that persons actions really offended my friends, so it's not okay.

I am an atheist, but it still offends me for people to crack at any religion. But Boltzmann is right in saying that the majority religions consider themselves to be just a bit "holyer than thou," and that because you believe in it and so many others do, anyone who doesn't must be a little off. I'm not saying that everyone believes that, and practically nobody says it outright, but the ideology is still there.
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