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oH no dont get that. Thats a 6600NU model. It will be about as fast as a 9600XT, 8x1 x 300 Clocks = 2400 fillrate. And its bandwith is much less as well. Its not a bad card but the 9600XT isnt the best value either.

For only 10 bucks more you can get this.

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-140-048&depa=0


8x1 x500 = 4000 Fillrate + 16 gigs of bandwith.
 
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That is a little bit high. Most 6600gt cards should be around $149 (15,500yen)

I bought mine for 18,654yen (around $179) the brand was PNY. With most PNY the RAM is good for Overclocking.

I can take the Core to 540Mhz and the RAM to 1115Mhz. when I have some time I can find out if my card will take a soft- mod. (Lots of 6600gts can I found out) to re-enable the pipes.
 
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Yes, it is the AGP model. I almost wish I had spent a little more to get a 6800nu. but this card is fine. and it works great. :) I just need to buy a better CPU. But the AMD XP line is hard to find because it’s been discontinued

(On a side note. Before this I had been using a Geforce2 MX400. Ever since 2002. Almost any game I could run on max settings with good speed. that was a good card, and I hope this last just as long)
 
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I'm thinking about getting a 6600GT AGP on my birthday maybe (Aug. 15).. my 9600XT just died AGAIN while running 3DMark 2003 Demo loop. :hdbash: 2nd one I've went through, and I'm convinced that nVidia's GPUs are built far better than ATi's.. or maybe it's my luck. I'm using my Asus FX 5200 128MB, 128-bit and it's a dog in comparison.. don't know how long I can take it. :p

In any case from here on out I'm sticking with nVidia.. never had an nVidia card die on me for no apperent reason. :hdbash:
 
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6600gt eats 9800 pros for breakfast.
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Yeah but when it comes to Memory output, the 6600 Rolls over. That 256-Bit bus is important, if you don't have it you can easily Bottle neck your GFX card. But it'd really depend on what games you're playing...mind telling us what games you plan on using it for? (In my case it's Source Engine based)
 
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well I am going to be using it for the heavy hitting fps's that are out and will be coming out in the future doom 3. ut2004, hl2 etc

Im so confused, I have been debating between a 9800pro and a 6600gt from the get go and I was decided on the 6600 but now with these new arguments I am confused once again lol

so how good would a 6800 plain be I mean theyre only like 250-260 but I was reading there clock speed is only like 500. Now IM not really sure how to compare clockspeeds but I am running my 9600 ocd to 405.

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-139-162&depa=1

another thing is that over the summer I would like to put together a good amd 3400-3500 sli setup

so Im just trying to do a budget upgrade on a crappy dell 2.8 (prescott or northbridge not really sure (478 I kno that much)) and Ive got a decent mobo from newegg and now I need a good 8x agp card that would dominate a radeon 9600 4x but not dominate my wallet

thanx for all the input guys
 
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Yeah but when it comes to Memory output, the 6600 Rolls over. That 256-Bit bus is important, if you don't have it you can easily Bottle neck your GFX card. But it'd really depend on what games you're playing...mind telling us what games you plan on using it for? (In my case it's Source Engine based)
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Memory bandwith is useless without the fillrate to compensate for it. This is the problem with the R300 series. And even the bigger problem for the Geforce FX series. They have more bandwith than they need per fillrate. So yes the 6600GT can easily match/beat it in any circumstances based off this.

6600GTs are currently selling for 200 bucks Online. PCIE variants are a bit cheaper.
 
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i dont think its a good idea to actually compare the memory bandwidth of different type of cards, more so entirely different architecture.
a 256bit memory ~22GB/sec. 5900XT cant compete with the same 256bit memory ~22GB/sec. of the 9800Pro.somehow, it all goes down to the efficiency of the architecture of the card.

i once owned a 5900XT, but recently got a 6600GT, and when playing games with AA/AF, framerate is noticeably higher on the 6600GT, pretty nice for a 14.4/16GB/sec memory bandwidth card.
 
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i dont think its a good idea to actually compare the memory bandwidth of different type of cards, more so entirely different architecture.
a 256bit memory ~22GB/sec. 5900XT cant compete with the same 256bit memory ~22GB/sec. of the 9800Pro.somehow, it all goes down to the efficiency of the architecture of the card.

i once owned a 5900XT, but recently got a 6600GT, and when playing games with AA/AF, framerate is noticeably higher on the 6600GT, pretty nice for a 14.4/16GB/sec memory bandwidth card.
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I personally believe it depends on what you're going to play. If he's going to play more FarCry and UT2K4 than HL2 then yeah, I'd definetly go towards the way of the 6600 simply because of the fact that both FarCry and UT are nVidia biased, so they'll perform much better on an nVidia based card. And it goes the same for Half-Life 2 except instead of nVidia it's ATi.

Oh and getting an 6800 isn't a bad idea, but the 6600 OCed can give you the same performance that a 6800 can (assuming you get one with 128MB). And if it doesn't match the performance, it'll come pretty damn close.
 
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Oh and getting an 6800 isn't a bad idea, but the 6600 OCed can give you the same performance that a 6800 can (assuming you get one with 128MB). And if it doesn't match the performance, it'll come pretty damn close.
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No, a 6600 even overclocked will never be nearly as good as the 6800 or 6600gt.

But a 6600gt can almost match a 6800(nu) when overclocked.
 
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No, a 6600 even overclocked will never be nearly as good as the 6800 or 6600gt.

But a 6600gt can almost match a 6800(nu) when overclocked.
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Isn't that what he said? Theres only 4 variants of the 6800.


6800 Ultra
6800 GT
6800
6800LE

6600GT falls between the 6800LE and 6800 in performance. Anyway I have owned both a 6800NU and 6600GT(well SLI) and the difference between the 6800NU and a single 6600GT is extremely slim. Unless you mod the 6800 then the difference becomes more evident.
 
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The thing to look at about brands is what kind of cooling they have on the card. I was going to get 2 6600GT's and run them in SLi, but I decided to go with one 6800GT and add another later when prices drop. Anyway, I dont think you really need to stay away from any specific brand, but look at the cooling on there, and what they use to cool the memory (heatsinks or the fan may cover it) I dont know much about apollo, but both leadtek and chaintech seem to be solid; but keep in mind all those companies do is add their own cooling, maybe change the pcb color, maybe change the clock speeds.
 
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