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3DFX strikes back !

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"A new company 3DPower has absorbed almost 90% of the former employees of 3DFX.

What is rumoured to lie behind such a move will have nVidia out on a Rampage. RamPage was the graphics chipset that was under development by 3DFX right before nVidia stepped in. 3DPower will probably put the chip to good use in their debut card the "3DPower Absolute". The PCB of the card will be black with gold componets seated in a smart wooden box.

It seems 3DPower secretly formed this new company without nVidia nor 3DFX knowing, this move is bound to get under nVidia's skin. It has the potential to raise some serious legal issues.

Even though the story hasn't been confirmed yet, it cannot hurt to get another big player in the graphics card market since nVidia seems to be getting too cocky for the consumers good."
Source : Megagames
Yeah............Gilde still not dead.............yahoooooo..............:D:smash::D:smash::D
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Unfortunatly, nVidia owns the Glide API, and the chip that 3dfx was working on. So unless they develop a totally new GPU, there could be tremedous legal issues..

Thanks for the information, hopefully it is true.. although i have been more of a nvidia fan since the 128..
Hehe, that's pretty nifty Enigma. Hopefully some of the old 3dfx employees took their driver code and such and we'll see some updated drivers for the older cards. Actually, it'd be interesting if they'd learn something from nVidia and start distributing unified drivers.
Hadn't 3dfx started open sourcing glide before they sold the company to nvidia. I seem to rember seeing that somewhere if that is the case then all nvidia actually bought was the name and all the current boad layouts (and i am not sure but i think 3dfx's fabrication plants)

I always wondered about that deal anyways... meaning what in the heck did Nvidia actually get from buying 3dfx's name. because that is basically all they did since they don't plan on making their own cards just licensing others to produce the cards using their processors (like 3dfx used to). Unless they make their own cards the fab plants are 99.9% uselessto them except to cut em up and sell em off (assuradly taking a loss). the designs for the video cards are totaly useless to them as well they already have cards in production (geoforce 3 anyone). wich will out perform anything 3dfx had on the market, and from what I hear on the drawing board.

I think the only reason Nvidia bought 3dfx was to remove them from the market and now with this start up company coming it proves they did not even do that.

Truth be told Glide is old and worn out and just about dead. 3dfx seemed to be aknowledging that fact when they started talk about open sourcing it.
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They should just get rid of Glide, considering every other card uses OGL.
Well, 3DFX was looking to sell... They knew that they were beat since the TNT card came out... It just happened that when 3DFX was sold to nVidia, they discontinued all thier products. Their sells droped tremedously when they started producing thier own cards. Having only a single outlet and a single choice for a manufacture really did them harm...
The sequel to this thread will probably be titled "the return of the Geforce" :p

Interesting... so there may still a competition in the 3d market after all. Maybe it will drive down the absurdly high prices that Nvidia charge for the latest video cards
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Betamax, the only reason the latest Nvidia cards (I assume you are talking about the GEForce 3) are so expensive is because they are new. Wait until they've been out for a while and I am sure the prices will drop. That is always the case here in the US where I live.
sincerely,
sx/amiga
Well I am of the view that 3dfx is way better then Direct3D..correct me if I am wrong....Because I have kept a Voodoo 3000 16MB AGP and Voodoo Banshee 16MB with me a long time and the results that I got from them were way better then Riva TnT2.....I have also seen some stuff of G-Force.....but the graphics on emus using lewpy's plugins on a Voodoo 5500 are better then G-force..........I will always support 3dfx.........

Ali
M.L.A
same here 3dfx all the way. I just bought the geoforce 2 mx and it wasnt that great as 3dfx ...glide is the best and will remain the best no matter what anyone says
Well, i would have to disagree... Glide is great, dont get me wrong... But it just is not as capable as OGL. I would have to disagree that the graphics on any psx emu look better in glide than in OGL... I have compared the 5500 to a GeForce MX... and my opinon was the oppisite liaqatali...
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'...glide is the best and will remain the best no matter what anyone says'

Those are the statements of someone who has no clue what they speak of..
Do you know the capablities of Glide Versus OpenGL liaqatali? Do you know what they are?



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Originally posted by CDBuRnOuT
'...glide is the best and will remain the best no matter what anyone says'

Those are the statements of someone who has no clue what they speak of..
Those are the words of a person who has absolutely a microscopic threshold for taking a joke and all he can do is just ban the person rather than to take it like a man ...ooopsss just forgot ure just aKID ... in that case thats all u can do...
Originally posted by Dan
Do you know the capablities of Glide Versus OpenGL liaqatali? Do you know what they are?



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Actually buddy I am not a computer expert I am simply a user U know.....I think U are angry because I just neglected the capabilities of G-Force........sorry for that....but I have used glide for a long time and still know I have a Voodoo Banshee 16MB and it performs very well for me.......My friend has a G-force 2MX and a Voodoo 5500....he himself says that Voodoo is better.......thats why I supported Glide.....

Well U talk about Glide and opengl I don't know a shit about them.....

There is no need to get rash in this discussion......I am talking to U cd and icehot..take it easy..talk nicely and friendly.....these things cause fight and hate........and result is nill....everyone posseses a different choice..........so respect each others ideas and choices......I hope U got it........take it easy fellows!

Ali
M.L.A
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Just because I correct your mindless statement, you bring up a decision about another user insulting a moderator and a forum user, and suggest that the decision was because one of the said people couldn't 'take it like a man', how moronic.

If you'd like to argue with me about Glide, or anything else, please use arguments pertaining to the topic, it saves people from having to read useless bullshit from someone who think his older age makes him superior, yet the so-called 'inferior' person can discern the difference between Glide and other APIs, and can see the pros and cons of each, and make a decent decision on the 'best', in general.

You obviously have no knowledge of the Glide API except that it runs fast on 3dfx hardware, I'll kindly ask you to take you and your poor typing skills out the this discussion, since elders shouldn't really be fraternizing with 'kids', eh?
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Oh yes, and the said user was not banned by myself, an admistrator performed the action, I merely edited the post. Thanks for that assumption, though.
CD I don't mean to be rude......but U lose your temper and start using a language that is rash and cannot be tolerated.....This topic was about what a 3dfx card...okay

I said I like 3dfx like anything else.that is my choice not your not anyones else.A person reading this will not get Blind...there is no bullshit about this......we are talking about our reviews...

Secondly......Icehot got hot because U made him.....rather then teasing him use a soft language and tell him that U are not familiar with the facts of 3dfx and d3d so please donot make statements about which U don't know..........simply...........!

There are other admis too but they treat the others nicely and softly and we repect them..........U on the other hand disgrace their views and use harsh language........!

If you are an admin then donot take a non proper use of it...we respect your powers over here.....

U call our views bull shit..........what is this man..........chill up

I made no statement........I said I will always support 3dfx.......and I will I guess no one has a problem with that...................!

U have knowledge U have powers and every thing that others desire but do not be proud of them and call others illiterate and call their statements Bullshit................!

In my previous posts I made mistakes......but sxamiga being a nice person advised me nicely and I never made those mistaked again.....!

Bgnome Also treats others nicely...and never used a harsh language.......Ryos also a soft person..........!
so what is left is U......please please be a little chilly and cool.....use proper words so that they don't hurt the others....!

Ali
M.L.A
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Excuse me, but my langauge was quite civilized, I don't recall using any vulgarities, except for the word 'bullshit'. I'm merely defending myself from a seemingly malicious user. Oh, and I think I should mention my status is not an Administrator, and I'm not a staff member of PSXEmu.com...

As for calling 'our' views bullshit, I did no such thing. I was talking to ice2hot the ENTIRE post. Never once did I talk of another user, except a banned user in question, and an admistrator who performed the banning, both remaining completely nameless. I was merely telling him to leave useless discussions out of the thread.

My 'insult' as you call it, wasn't very insulting. I just said he was uninformed about Glide and other Graphics APIs, if he's making a statement like that.

Also, about calling him a poor typist, he insulted me, insinuating that my age shows my intelligence level. I believe that minor 'comeback' was fair.

But since you all seem to think I'm an asshole, so be it. This will be last post at these forums. I'm tired of getting insulted for defending myself, whether it be against a said banned user, ice2hot, or anyone else. I'm tired of users disregarding rules, I'm tired of getting insulted when I enforce rules, as well. Good day to you, sir. I hope you all have a wonderous time without the big bad CD around..
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Originally posted by ice2hot


...ooopsss just forgot ure just a KID ... in that case thats all u can do...
That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. Why is it that eveything always comes back to , You're just a kid. Well guess what ice2hot your just a kid with a bigger number of candles on your cake. If you want to argue fine but at least use a bit of intelligence rather then make generalized comments that usually indicate signs of infiriority. If you can't think of something logical and intelligent to say then please don't take the low road with lame cop-outs like that. Thats like a skinny person being mad at a fat person and, not being able to think of a logical argument, says "Yeah, well, your FAT" If you are so much older and wiser then proove it. Provide arguemnts that support your opinion. I'm not defending anyone here but I am sick of all the stupid and usless arguments and I'm sick of seeing them all blamed on the same person when they are not all his fault. You all overreacted to a simple statement, if you knew CD at all then you would understand that he wasn't being beligerant he was just making an informed comment. Perhaps his manner of saying it wasn't to your liking but some people have better things to do then butter everything up so that others don't get the ir little feelings hurt. Enough said.
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