vertex\pixel shaders

orysyz · January 8th, 2004, 15:15

hi all,

i just want to ask this, could be you guys who experts in this?.
is there any method to play game that required pixel shaders while my AGP
card doesnt support pixel shader (Gforce 2).
i meant is there any software that emulate pixel shader?

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Katsuya · January 8th, 2004, 15:22

No... sorry.

orysyz · January 8th, 2004, 15:25

i get it,
thanks.

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shnord · January 8th, 2004, 15:45

You cant emulate pixel shaders, but you can "skip" on them, And by doing so you could make the game you could'nt play before work on your computer.
To skip on the pixel shaders use 3d analyzer:

http://translate.google.com/translat...=de%7Cen&hl=en

Edit: I found that you CAN emulate pixel shaders (and all sorts of other cool stuff) through 3d analyzer. BTW to download the program press on it's picture.

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grahf · January 9th, 2004, 07:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Katsuya

No... sorry.

You sure? Because I can run the dawn demo on my gf4ti4200 through rivatuner.

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op3n_skill · January 9th, 2004, 07:30

it's because of your card... Your GF4 ti has Pixel shaders, only in DX8.
Also, IRC, that if your card cant handle DX9 Pixel Shaders, it will revert and use DX8 pixel shaders..

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**fivefeet8** · January 9th, 2004, 08:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by grahf

You sure? Because I can run the dawn demo on my gf4ti4200 through rivatuner.

yeah.. like at 1fp.... Minute.

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Sampah · January 13th, 2004, 05:18

emulating pixel or vertex shader will make it worse, even if there is a software to emulate you'll run at lower fps and slower frame rate, just like D3D software emulation

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orysyz · January 17th, 2004, 02:38

how about Geforce 2 MX400 ?

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orysyz · January 17th, 2004, 04:43

if i skip pixel shaders, can i play Silent Hill 3 that require Pixel shader. i mean can it run properly?

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Sampah · January 20th, 2004, 03:53

yep maybe, just you might not see the pixel shader/vertex shader...

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orysyz · January 20th, 2004, 11:10

wow that's wonderful!

somehow, what the purpose vertex shader to each game?

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**Demigod** · January 21st, 2004, 04:33

To say it simply, pixel shaders and vertex shaders allow customized special effects (effects that are not possible with the GPU's built-in functions).

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Sampah · January 28th, 2004, 07:19

yeah, and that's was a great difference in graphics when running a game with and without DirectX 8 or 9, like ex:lords of the ring: war of the ring and C&C general.

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January 8th, 2004, 15:15	#1
orysyz Shooting star Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Malaysia Posts: 774	vertex\pixel shaders hi all, i just want to ask this, could be you guys who experts in this?. is there any method to play game that required pixel shaders while my AGP card doesnt support pixel shader (Gforce 2). i meant is there any software that emulate pixel shader? __________________ Acer Aspire 5500, Centrino 1.73, 768Mb Ram, 80Gb HDD, ATI Mobility Radeon X700 Its Vista's voice 'wreck'gniton: Dear aunt, let's set so double the killer delete select all

January 8th, 2004, 15:45	#4
shnord ChaosBlade, you rule! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Israel Posts: 139	3d analyzer You cant emulate pixel shaders, but you can "skip" on them, And by doing so you could make the game you could'nt play before work on your computer. To skip on the pixel shaders use 3d analyzer: http://translate.google.com/translat...=de%7Cen&hl=en Edit: I found that you CAN emulate pixel shaders (and all sorts of other cool stuff) through 3d analyzer. BTW to download the program press on it's picture. -Shnord Last edited by shnord; January 8th, 2004 at 16:04..

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January 8th, 2004, 15:22	#2
Katsuya - Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: - Posts: 1,934	No... sorry.

January 8th, 2004, 15:25	#3
orysyz Shooting star Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Malaysia Posts: 774	i get it, thanks. __________________ Acer Aspire 5500, Centrino 1.73, 768Mb Ram, 80Gb HDD, ATI Mobility Radeon X700 Its Vista's voice 'wreck'gniton: Dear aunt, let's set so double the killer delete select all

January 9th, 2004, 07:30	#6
op3n_skill Finally!! :D Join Date: May 2003 Location: Manila, Philippines Posts: 1,842	it's because of your card... Your GF4 ti has Pixel shaders, only in DX8. Also, IRC, that if your card cant handle DX9 Pixel Shaders, it will revert and use DX8 pixel shaders.. __________________ Member of "The Pessimistics Club"

January 13th, 2004, 05:18	#8
Sampah The Handsome Man Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Unlucky Place Posts: 885	emulating pixel or vertex shader will make it worse, even if there is a software to emulate you'll run at lower fps and slower frame rate, just like D3D software emulation __________________ PROCESSOR: AMD Athlon 64 3000+ @1.8Ghz RAM: Kingstone 512MB PC3200 MOBO: ECS Nforce4 A939 VGA: Pixelview Geforce 6600GT (Golden Limited Edition) 128MB OS: WinXP pro Service pack 2

January 17th, 2004, 02:38	#9
orysyz Shooting star Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Malaysia Posts: 774	how about Geforce 2 MX400 ? __________________ Acer Aspire 5500, Centrino 1.73, 768Mb Ram, 80Gb HDD, ATI Mobility Radeon X700 Its Vista's voice 'wreck'gniton: Dear aunt, let's set so double the killer delete select all

January 17th, 2004, 04:43	#10
orysyz Shooting star Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Malaysia Posts: 774	if i skip pixel shaders, can i play Silent Hill 3 that require Pixel shader. i mean can it run properly? __________________ Acer Aspire 5500, Centrino 1.73, 768Mb Ram, 80Gb HDD, ATI Mobility Radeon X700 Its Vista's voice 'wreck'gniton: Dear aunt, let's set so double the killer delete select all

January 20th, 2004, 03:53	#11
Sampah The Handsome Man Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Unlucky Place Posts: 885	yep maybe, just you might not see the pixel shader/vertex shader... __________________ PROCESSOR: AMD Athlon 64 3000+ @1.8Ghz RAM: Kingstone 512MB PC3200 MOBO: ECS Nforce4 A939 VGA: Pixelview Geforce 6600GT (Golden Limited Edition) 128MB OS: WinXP pro Service pack 2

January 20th, 2004, 11:10	#12
orysyz Shooting star Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Malaysia Posts: 774	wow that's wonderful! somehow, what the purpose vertex shader to each game? __________________ Acer Aspire 5500, Centrino 1.73, 768Mb Ram, 80Gb HDD, ATI Mobility Radeon X700 Its Vista's voice 'wreck'gniton: Dear aunt, let's set so double the killer delete select all

January 21st, 2004, 04:33	#13
Demigod これはバタスです Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 6,227	To say it simply, pixel shaders and vertex shaders allow customized special effects (effects that are not possible with the GPU's built-in functions). __________________ CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 Mobo: Intel DX48BT2 Memory: 4096 MB PC10600 DDR3 Videocard: PNY Geforce 9800 GX2 Soundcard: On-board SigmaTel High Definition Audio Hard drive: 120 GB OCZ RevoDrive PCI-E SSD & 1 TB Hitachi Optical drive: LG GGW-H20L (2x BD-R DL) PSU: Nexus 1000 Watt PSU OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate (64-bit) Proud millionaire folder of the NGEmu folding team

January 28th, 2004, 07:19	#14
Sampah The Handsome Man Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Unlucky Place Posts: 885	yeah, and that's was a great difference in graphics when running a game with and without DirectX 8 or 9, like ex:lords of the ring: war of the ring and C&C general. __________________ PROCESSOR: AMD Athlon 64 3000+ @1.8Ghz RAM: Kingstone 512MB PC3200 MOBO: ECS Nforce4 A939 VGA: Pixelview Geforce 6600GT (Golden Limited Edition) 128MB OS: WinXP pro Service pack 2