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**DarkAurora** · May 19th, 2003, 06:23

I used to get depressed quite a lot but you just gotta stop feeling sorry for yourself and realize that life is gonna suck sometimes.

Kraelis · May 19th, 2003, 06:37

If depression is a virtue, then why take medication for it?

I agree with Kaiser with this point.

Me? I'm rarely depressed. When I am, I have so much that I can do to help me get over it. Philosophy and Theology have really helped me deal with it even better.

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**ammoQ** · May 19th, 2003, 07:07

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Originally posted by Kraelis
If depression is a virtue, then why take medication for it?

You may choose not to take medication if it is a small depression only, and you can handle it. If it get worse, it makes your life miserable, so you should do something about it.

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Kamina · May 19th, 2003, 09:30

I used to take medication for my various conditions (manic depression, social anxiety disorder, agoraphobia and a few other irrellevant neurocies) but due to prescription costs in the US I had to stop taking all but my thyroid medication.

I don't think it's affected me too badly... though occassionally I've found myself looking at Stalin as just another bleeding heart liberal.

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Unicron · May 19th, 2003, 16:09

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... though occassionally I've found myself looking at Stalin as just another bleeding heart liberal.

...don't we all???

Aaaahhh...depression medication

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Kaiser Sigma · May 19th, 2003, 16:46

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Originally posted by Kraelis
If depression is a virtue, then why take medication for it?

I agree with Kaiser with this point.

Me? I'm rarely depressed. When I am, I have so much that I can do to help me get over it. Philosophy and Theology have really helped me deal with it even better.

Every single human has its way of dealing with it, the first and most important step is to find that way...

Boltzmann · May 19th, 2003, 17:20

Greetings,

There's no standardized mode of dealing with depression. Quoting myself (I love to quote myself

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Quote:

I was depressed before, even suicidal, so I know what I'm talking about. And what got me out of that state wasn't simple advices, like thinking "good" thoughts. It was a gradual process, more of discovery than knowledge.

It's as old as Socrates: "Know thyself". No self-help books will ever get you out of a depression (some will even make it worse).

As for the physiological side, in case of acute hormone imbalances only medication can help you. Brain chemistry is complex, and we're not as free to act and think as we think we are.

Live long and prosper.

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Kaiser Sigma · May 19th, 2003, 17:29

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Originally posted by Boltzmann
Greetings,
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As for the physiological side, in case of acute hormone imbalances only medication can help you. Brain chemistry is complex, and we're not as free to act and think as we think we are.

Live long and prosper.

Indeed, that's what makes things easier sometimes... suggestion is a double-edged sword, mainly it works for ill but like anything else if you use it right you can solve lots of problems...

Suggestion can make pain real but its power works for good stuff too

RPGWizard · May 19th, 2003, 18:42

I was depressed for a time. (And yes, I was suicidal, although I never worked up the nerve to attempt, thank God)

Let's just say that it's quite weird.....you're able to think of things unacceptable to normal society as OK or even the most normal thing in the world.....You're sometimes happy, but it doesn't last long.....And many things that should upset you don't, and things that shouldn't do.....

Hmmmmm.....I just described alot of people.

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**ammoQ** · May 19th, 2003, 20:04

I read that many people who are manic-depressive (sorry if the translation is bad) do not want to change their situation, because they don't want to loose the manic periodes when everything is extremely easy, they are very creative etc..

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RPGWizard · May 19th, 2003, 20:06

I had a friend who was manic depressive.....good guy, and you hardly knew he was depressed.....then he died in a car crash.....very sad.....

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Kid A · May 19th, 2003, 21:26

One of my brothers has manic-depressive schizophrenia. Yeah, sounds scary, but he's innofensive.

**Kurbster** · May 19th, 2003, 21:36

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One of my brothers has manic-depressive schizophrenia. Yeah, sounds scary, but he's innofensive.

School thought I had manic depression before. I don't blame them, I was flying off the walls and throwing desks at teachers when I was in 3rd grade. Now I just swear for no reason at all. I'm gradually healing

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Exodus · May 20th, 2003, 02:17

hmm... kind of reminds me of the bartender from Boon Dock Saints. he'd just swear for no reason in the middle of sentences.

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Boltzmann · May 20th, 2003, 02:23

Greetings,

Maniac-depressive people (or purely depressed people) often don't want to change their state, because it would be equal to giving up a part of them.
And the right ammount of depression can bring about much creative thinking, and ways of expressing yourself (hence great writers and painters being often depressed).
The subjacent brain processes/chemistry to depressive behavior probably make up for this relutance in being "cured" and on the creative fits.

Live long and prosper.

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Kamina · May 20th, 2003, 07:47

Well, manic depression is like an emotional roller coaster. Periods of crazed activity and "happiness" followed by innactivity and severe depression (Hitler or Picasso for example.) Medication in this case just helps even out the peaks and troughs, but doesn't actually affect a persons state of mind in so far as being depressed or not goes. Well, that's how it affected me at least.

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May 19th, 2003, 06:23	#641
DarkAurora Back from the dead Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Seymour, TN Posts: 3,741	I used to get depressed quite a lot but you just gotta stop feeling sorry for yourself and realize that life is gonna suck sometimes.

May 19th, 2003, 06:37	#642
Kraelis Transcended Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Moonlight Spire Posts: 1,409	If depression is a virtue, then why take medication for it? I agree with Kaiser with this point. Me? I'm rarely depressed. When I am, I have so much that I can do to help me get over it. Philosophy and Theology have really helped me deal with it even better. __________________ --KrÆlis Cross Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur =============== Athlon 64 x2 3800\| Asrock ALiveNF6G-VSTA \| Kingston DDR2 1 Gb RAM

May 19th, 2003, 09:30	#644
Kamina Dance Monkey boy! Dance! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: OR, USA Posts: 515	I used to take medication for my various conditions (manic depression, social anxiety disorder, agoraphobia and a few other irrellevant neurocies) but due to prescription costs in the US I had to stop taking all but my thyroid medication. I don't think it's affected me too badly... though occassionally I've found myself looking at Stalin as just another bleeding heart liberal. __________________ Es gibt keine verzweifelten Lagen, es gibt nur verzweifelte Menschen

May 19th, 2003, 18:42	#649
RPGWizard Dreaded Similitude Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: -----> Over there Posts: 989	I was depressed for a time. (And yes, I was suicidal, although I never worked up the nerve to attempt, thank God) Let's just say that it's quite weird.....you're able to think of things unacceptable to normal society as OK or even the most normal thing in the world.....You're sometimes happy, but it doesn't last long.....And many things that should upset you don't, and things that shouldn't do..... Hmmmmm.....I just described alot of people. __________________ [size=-2][center] [url=http://blog.efx2.com/index.php?uid=1204]sig too big, please refer to the new sig regulations

May 19th, 2003, 20:04	#650
ammoQ Emu author Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Vienna/Austria/Europe Posts: 1,168	I read that many people who are manic-depressive (sorry if the translation is bad) do not want to change their situation, because they don't want to loose the manic periodes when everything is extremely easy, they are very creative etc.. __________________ If you think my English is bad, wait till you read my Polish.

May 19th, 2003, 20:06	#651
RPGWizard Dreaded Similitude Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: -----> Over there Posts: 989	I had a friend who was manic depressive.....good guy, and you hardly knew he was depressed.....then he died in a car crash.....very sad..... __________________ [size=-2][center] [url=http://blog.efx2.com/index.php?uid=1204]sig too big, please refer to the new sig regulations

May 19th, 2003, 21:26	#652
Kid A ~ Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 2,638	One of my brothers has manic-depressive schizophrenia. Yeah, sounds scary, but he's innofensive.

May 20th, 2003, 02:17	#654
Exodus ...and now they do. Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Null Posts: 20,000	hmm... kind of reminds me of the bartender from Boon Dock Saints. he'd just swear for no reason in the middle of sentences. __________________ No, I don't like anime, Street Fighter, Japanese music or download video game music. Yes, I know, I'm weird.

May 20th, 2003, 02:23	#655
Boltzmann Retired Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Jundiaí - São Paulo - Brazil Posts: 8,876	Greetings, Maniac-depressive people (or purely depressed people) often don't want to change their state, because it would be equal to giving up a part of them. And the right ammount of depression can bring about much creative thinking, and ways of expressing yourself (hence great writers and painters being often depressed). The subjacent brain processes/chemistry to depressive behavior probably make up for this relutance in being "cured" and on the creative fits. Live long and prosper. __________________ "Let be be finale of seem. The only emperor is the emperor of ice-cream." - Wallace Stevens Me on Twitter

May 20th, 2003, 07:47	#656
Kamina Dance Monkey boy! Dance! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: OR, USA Posts: 515	Well, manic depression is like an emotional roller coaster. Periods of crazed activity and "happiness" followed by innactivity and severe depression (Hitler or Picasso for example.) Medication in this case just helps even out the peaks and troughs, but doesn't actually affect a persons state of mind in so far as being depressed or not goes. Well, that's how it affected me at least. __________________ Es gibt keine verzweifelten Lagen, es gibt nur verzweifelte Menschen